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Old 05-26-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Utah
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Most of my family see spirituality in everything, but i don't, i just think it's nonsense.

Does this make me a bad person, for not seeing a mystic awe in things?
There is a difference between being "bad" and being wrong. You are just wrong.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Not seeing spirituality in everything does not make you bad or wrong. Most people do not see spirituality in everything, but many pretend they do.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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And you guys say atheism is depressing.
it IS depressing if you know you have to pay the penalty for your sin. The amazing thing that we can all be happy about though is that if you repent and trust in Christ's sacrifice as atonement for our sin we don't have to.

There is no better good news.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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it IS depressing if you know you have to pay the penalty for your sin. The amazing thing that we can all be happy about though is that if you repent and trust in Christ's sacrifice as atonement for our sin we don't have to.

There is no better good news.
But we don't know this, and thankfully we do not think the way you do. In fact since we do not believe in sin that frees us from depression in this regard...Christians such as yourself believe that everyone is bad and sinful, and have to repent to avoid hell...Now that has to be depressing.
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Nowhere'sville
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Of course it makes you bad! You are NOT allowed to have your own thoughts and feelings on anything! They HAVE to be what the big bully in the bible says they have to be! How dare you try to think for yourself! That is very closed minded of you!

Just kidding! You're fine. If you can't force yourself to think like those around then you just can't.... I know exactly where you are coming from!
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:53 PM
 
Location: OKC
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it IS depressing if you know you have to pay the penalty for your sin. The amazing thing that we can all be happy about though is that if you repent and trust in Christ's sacrifice as atonement for our sin we don't have to.

There is no better good news.
It's not really that good of news.

It would be better news if he didn't try to throw us in hell in the first place.

Check it out:

According to you, God made me. Now he want's me to burn in hell for being exactly the same way he made me. I will only get a pardon if I agree to worship him for eternity.

It's extortion, plain and simple.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:58 PM
 
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It's not really that good of news.

It would be better news if he didn't try to throw us in hell in the first place.

Check it out:

According to you, God made me. Now he want's me to burn in hell for being exactly the same way he made me. I will only get a pardon if I agree to worship him for eternity.

It's extortion, plain and simple.

Oh well. Fact remains that if you repent and trust in Christ you won't go to hell.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:01 PM
 
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Most of my family see spirituality in everything, but i don't, i just think it's nonsense.

Does this make me a bad person, for not seeing a mystic awe in things?
For you to ask this question, it makes me think you are either trolling or believing that you are a bad person for not being religious. I'd be interested to know what you about not being religious makes you "bad", in your opinion.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:19 PM
 
Location: home
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Well, no one gets to heaven unless they go through Jesus Christ. That means you need to have faith, which you have none. Do you even know the "Lords Prayer" "Hail Mary" or "Glory be"?
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Nowhere'sville
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For you to ask this question, it makes me think you are either trolling or believing that you are a bad person for not being religious. I'd be interested to know what you about not being religious makes you "bad", in your opinion.
No...I know exactly what this person is talking about. I got so tired of being made to feel like a bad person just because I didn't think like all the other Christians in my church.
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