Was Bush on a mission from God? (salvation, America, Baptist)
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Bush, who turns 63 in July and was 54 when first sworn into office in 2001, has yet to comment on the reports. They include last week's GQ magazine exposé into the hawkish use of scripture in 2003, when then-defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld forwarded secret intelligence memos to Bush embroidered with biblical passages.
Bush wasn't just pretending to be a right wing fundamentalist to get votes, that's really how he thinks. The war in Iraq doesn't seem to have been inspired by a God though, I think historians will consider it to be one of the most stupid military blunders in modern times. Afghanistan is another story because we were attacked and were obligated to fight back from my point of view. I had never realized until recently that Rumsfeld apparently shares some of Bush's religious fervour. I don't recall that he made any public statements about his faith while of course Bush made a great many comments even during the Presidential debates when he ran the first time. It seems a bit egotistical to believe that God wants you to lead an entire nation under his guidance though. If there was a God I think he could have found somebody a whole lot smarter than Bush.
Bush, who turns 63 in July and was 54 when first sworn into office in 2001, has yet to comment on the reports. They include last week's GQ magazine exposé into the hawkish use of scripture in 2003, when then-defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld forwarded secret intelligence memos to Bush embroidered with biblical passages.
I think historians will consider it to be one of the most stupid military blunders in modern times.
I'm not so sure about this. In a historical context, the loss of life was very low for an operation of this scope and nature. I think for the type of war it was, it was very successful - in historical context.
I'm not so sure that 10 years from now we will all wish that Saddam or his sons were still in power. We may be able to look back on attacking Iraq as the lessor of evils we faced at the time.
I'm not so sure about this. In a historical context, the loss of life was very low for an operation of this scope and nature. I think for the type of war it was, it was very successful - in historical context.
I'm not so sure that 10 years from now we will all wish that Saddam or his sons were still in power. We may be able to look back on attacking Iraq as the lessor of evils we faced at the time.
Yes!
This wasn't a war for democracy or deposing Saddam.
This was a war to increase American geo-political clout in the region, with a resurgent Russia and growing China.
Now, American presence in Central Asia is pretty deep and is here to stay, to bulwark Russia's growing energy muscle and China's money muscle.
All the Bush haters, quit whining, coz he has done you guys a HUGE favour. You need an SUV with its tank always filled up for family fun every weekend. So, while you are at it, it's a shame you have to bash the man who made it happen.
What if Bush didn't? Anyone knows who is doing what in Sudan? Iraq and the surrounding areas will be plumb and up for grabs for whoever wants to use them for geo-political ends.
Bush is gonna have a bigger and massive reputation, 25 years down the line. Just wait for it.
Originally Posted by MontanaGuy
I think historians will consider it to be one of the most stupid military blunders in modern times.
I'm not so sure about this. In a historical context, the loss of life was very low for an operation of this scope and nature. I think for the type of war it was, it was very successful - in historical context.
I agree that the loss of life among the military was very low when you compare it to previous conflicts but we really don't know the full extent of the civilian casualties and people who lost their lives but were completely innocent and happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. There's no doubt that this was a brutal dictatorship but it remains to be seen what it's going to be replaced with after American troops are gone.
Bush, who turns 63 in July and was 54 when first sworn into office in 2001, has yet to comment on the reports. They include last week's GQ magazine exposé into the hawkish use of scripture in 2003, when then-defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld forwarded secret intelligence memos to Bush embroidered with biblical passages.
Mr. President, Sir, when reporter Bob Woodward asked you if you had consulted with your father before ordering our army into Iraq you said, "No, he's not the father you call on a decision like this. I talked to my heavenly Father above."
OMG! Bush got permission or direction from God to invade Iraq!? Bush was doing the Lord’s Work? I’ve always taught my kids that whenever they meet people or organizations that believe they are on a “Mission from God” to run away as fast as they can and don’t look back!
Alas, we continue to fight religious wars with “god on our side”. Onward Christian Soldiers!
This wasn't a war for democracy or deposing Saddam.
This was a war to increase American geo-political clout in the region, with a resurgent Russia and growing China.
Now, American presence in Central Asia is pretty deep and is here to stay, to bulwark Russia's growing energy muscle and China's money muscle.
All the Bush haters, quit whining, coz he has done you guys a HUGE favour. You need an SUV with its tank always filled up for family fun every weekend. So, while you are at it, it's a shame you have to bash the man who made it happen.
What if Bush didn't? Anyone knows who is doing what in Sudan? Iraq and the surrounding areas will be plumb and up for grabs for whoever wants to use them for geo-political ends.
Bush is gonna have a bigger and massive reputation, 25 years down the line. Just wait for it.
You might be right. But I don't try to contrast Obama and Bush.
Obama is giving more power to the liberals, and who knows what was in that 1,000 page Stimulus Package.
Our government is very corrupt, and I think that will be our downfall. The Marxists are sitting like hungry jackals drooling and licking their chops.
Our nation is destroying itself, because no one can legislate the morality and integrity we need.
You might be right. But I don't try to contrast Obama and Bush.
Obama is giving more power to the liberals, and who knows what was in that 1,000 page Stimulus Package.
Our government is very corrupt, and I think that will be our downfall. The Marxists are sitting like hungry jackals drooling and licking their chops.
Our nation is destroying itself, because no one can legislate the morality and integrity we need.
Only someone appreciating "whig"gy politics can truly appreciate the merit in my analysis
I have studied imperialist methodologies too much to assess why someone is doing something.
I don't know about Obama. I lunched with a deacon last week and when the topic of Obama came up, we both agreed that he should be a Deist.
Socialism came up too. Religiously, he can dismantle the evangelical clout in the south, it just takes massive amount of overhauling of government machinery, which I think is already being done.
His undoing will the Israel, probably. The Jewish money bags which rallied behind him will simply turn the money pipeline off.
The "mob" never left since the Roman Empire Presidents are just the facade. Noone can be Sulla. Even Caesar himself was murdered
Worse. The "plebs". Did they ever come out of their stupidity? 2000 years gone. Several ages of human advancement passed. Like the "mob", the "Plebs" are still the same too
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Presidents are just the facade. Noone can be Sulla. Even Caesar himself was murdered 
