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Old 01-12-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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Quick method is to deduct the cost for the portion of your stay the unit was not habitable IF the problem was the owner's responsibility.

What does the habitability statue for this jurisdiction say about heat.

Most will provide a reasonableness standard... as in repair within 24 hours or similar.

Is it something you could have taken care of... as in a simple lighting of a pilot light?

Local Utility will light pilots for free... the catch is they have 72 hours to do it... It is very easy to do and WAS common knowledge for decades.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Thanks for your responses, but none answered the question.

I am in dialogue with the owner and just want to know, what type of discount would be fair to ask? He may deny it and if he does, I'll take it from there.

honestly? None. You were out anything...you were cold..and if you were that cold, you should've left or bought space heaters.

It's exactly like odering a meal, eating the whole thing and then bitching about the meat being tough, the veggies being soggy....you can't complain after the fact, especially since you stayed the whole time.


I dont' doubt the landlord will give you a break, but are you DUE one? No.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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honestly? None. You were out anything...you were cold..and if you were that cold, you should've left or bought space heaters.

It's exactly like odering a meal, eating the whole thing and then bitching about the meat being tough, the veggies being soggy....you can't complain after the fact, especially since you stayed the whole time.


I dont' doubt the landlord will give you a break, but are you DUE one? No.
Disregarded response. No one is asking for opinions as to whether I am due one.

Sorry someone pissed in your cornflakes today.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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Disregarded response. No one is asking for opinions as to whether I am due one.

Sorry someone pissed in your cornflakes today.
Um, YOU asked our opinions as to what percentage of a discount you should get off the weekly rental. Just because you disagree with Kim in FL's response that the discount should be ZERO doesn't mean you have to be rude.

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Thanks for your responses, but none answered the question.

I am in dialogue with the owner and just want to know, what type of discount would be fair to ask? He may deny it and if he does, I'll take it from there.
I asked you a bunch of questions, none of which you answered. You didn't give any details about the circumstances of losing heat, which is pretty important info and would help determine what would seem to be fair. Since you clearly STAYED there despite being cold, you weren't out any money. (Again, as I wrote before, it sounds like you were inconvenienced.)

Why not just enjoy the 6.5 days of your vacation instead of spending so much time trying to get money after the fact from the owner? (And what does "I'll take it from there" mean? Are you thinking of suing?!)
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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I think it depends on whether the problem was something that owner caused or had control of, or if it was just something that happened.

If the heat broke by itself, then sorry, its was an "act of god" and nothing the owner could have done about it. Its just your bad luck.

If the owner turned the heat off, or did something in purpose, then of course, he should remedy that.

Something similar happened to me and a bunch of friends a few years ago. We rented a house in the mountains in the middle of winter for new year, and found out the owner had turned the hot water to the lowest setting possible (under a heavy lock!) in order to save on utilities (during initial walk-through, he stressed many times the importance to save on utilities). We made him pay for it in spades, but there lies the difference.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Disregarded response. No one is asking for opinions as to whether I am due one.

Sorry someone pissed in your cornflakes today.

A) You can disregard any response you want, doesn't make them any less right.

B) You did ask for opinions and you're ticked because noone is telling you to demand a total refund.

C) I dont' eat cornflakes.

Carry on....
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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We rented a place via VRBO for 7 days. We had to go a full 24 hours without heat (in winter, nights dipping to 10 degrees). The owner was traveling and it was 24-hours before the heat was back. (It was very cold inside and since we didn't hear back from owner immediately, we were looking into booking a hotel.)

What percentage of the week rental do you think would be fair?
I would say it would be fair to deduct the difference in what you paid and what the landlord would have been able to collect for the house if he advertised it with no heat.(for the one day). I would say ask for the day free in reality I think you'd be ok with getting 1/2 of the day.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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[quote=karen_in_nh_2012;27731770]Um, YOU asked our opinions as to what percentage of a discount you should get off the weekly rental. Just because you disagree with Kim in FL's response that the discount should be ZERO doesn't mean you have to be rude.



I asked you a bunch of questions, none of which you answered. You didn't give any details about the circumstances of losing heat, which is pretty important info and would help determine what would seem to be fair. Since you clearly STAYED there despite being cold, you weren't out any money. (Again, as I wrote before, it sounds like you were inconvenienced.)

Why not just enjoy the 6.5 days of your vacation instead of spending so much time trying to get money after the fact from the owner? (And what does "I'll take it from there" mean? Are you thinking of suing?!)[/quote]


No doubt it does..that's why they are so mad at that the responses they are getting. They were hoping people would jump on the 'bash the landlord' wagon and encourage them to demand a full weeks refund. Insane.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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I would say it would be fair to deduct the difference in what you paid and what the landlord would have been able to collect for the house if he advertised it with no heat.(for the one day). I would say ask for the day free in reality I think you'd be ok with getting 1/2 of the day.
Thanks for your very useful response. There are other details involved: additional neglectful conditions that we did not complain about, as the landlord was away on an emergency. We were quite understanding, although the heat issue was very uncomfortable with the winter weather being in single digits and a house full of little kids. However, now he is withholding part of the deposit due to other things that we had nothing to do with.

Given the above, I am now asking for a partial credit regarding the heat issue.

These details flesh out the story a bit, but at the end of the day, I'm just looking at a figure that would be fair.

Thanks.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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Let's you see didn't have heat for 24 hours. So figure out what the one day portion of the rent would be.

However, you ned four things to make a rental habitable- heat, electricity, water ,sewer. Evidently you had three of those things.

So take you one day rental fee and ask for 25 % of that one day's rental fee as what was missing was the heat portion.
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