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I posted a month or so ago about new upstairs neighbors and their whining, barking dog. We learned that the dog is allowed per their lease, which is extremely frustrating since what we signed up for was a no-pets apartment. The fact that the property manager didn't seem to care to do anything about the dog or the copious amounts of other noise caused us to find a new place to live, fast, and we'll be moving next week.
This situation got me thinking about expected behaviour from 2nd floor tenants. Obviously one can't expect silence in a multi-family building, but we've lived beneath at least four other families in the past (two in this building) and have never experienced this level of noise. Today it was the three kids running around constantly for eight hours while mom was at work, then after mom got home more running around and very loud music and what sounded like moving furniture until 11:30 when my husband finally snapped and yelled at them. Her answer was "well, I have a 2 year old" but for heaven's sake, your 2 year old should be in bed at 11:30!
Is it not common courtesy to keep your kids from running around, especially late at night, when there are people living below you? Or to keep your music at a level that can't be heard in other units? I hate to be the complaining tenant but this really was getting ridiculous.
Anyway, the new place has a much better layout, gorgeous hardwood floors and a beautiful big kitchen, so even though the process of moving sucks, I'm.sort of glad our hand was forced. And it's a SFH so no upstairs neighbors or even shared walls to worry about.
Good for you. There is no reason to put up with that if you don’t have to. The LL chose to allow pets now and they had to expect they may lose tenants that signed up for pet free. That is their choice, now they have to find new tenants.
I can’t even stand it when I stay in a hotel. Living underneath someone who is stomping around at all hours just doesn’t seem like a sustainable living arrangement to me. And there is little you can do to stop it
Sure. Common courtesy. But if you really expect common courtesy, your expectations are unrealistic. Self centered people don't have any common courtesy because life is all about them.
There is nothing landlords can do about loud children, service animals, or emotional support animals because all of those are protected by federal law. Any tenant can get a dog (or pig, or pony, or ostrich ) into a no pet apartment by simply declaring it to be an emotional support aninal. There is nothing a landlord can do to keep them out.
If you don't like living next door to them, contact your congressman or senator. It won't do you any good to complain to the landlord because federal law prevents the landlord from fixing the problem.
There is nothing landlords can do about loud children, service animals, or emotional support animals because all of those are protected by federal law. Any tenant can get a dog (or pig, or pony, or ostrich ) into a no pet apartment by simply declaring it to be an emotional support aninal. There is nothing a landlord can do to keep them out.
If you don't like living next door to them, contact your congressman or senator. It won't do you any good to complain to the landlord because federal law prevents the landlord from fixing the problem.
That is total B.S. There may be different laws/rules when initially renting to someone however, once they are living there those tenants are not above the law when it comes to making other people's lives miserable or breaking the rules. They don't get a free pass to act any way they choose nor do they get free reign to disrupt others lives in any way that they want to. All of them can be evicted just like anyone else can be if they don't abide by their applicable rental laws and the rules of their lease.
All you need is a LL that has balls enough to stand up to them, knows the laws, has some common sense and does not walk on eggshells by falsely thinking that those types of tenants are invincible and can't be touched.
I have seen you mention time and time again that there is nothing that can be done and you are absolutely 100% wrong.
I posted a month or so ago about new upstairs neighbors and their whining, barking dog. We learned that the dog is allowed per their lease, which is extremely frustrating since what we signed up for was a no-pets apartment. The fact that the property manager didn't seem to care to do anything about the dog or the copious amounts of other noise caused us to find a new place to live, fast, and we'll be moving next week.
This situation got me thinking about expected behaviour from 2nd floor tenants. Obviously one can't expect silence in a multi-family building, but we've lived beneath at least four other families in the past (two in this building) and have never experienced this level of noise. Today it was the three kids running around constantly for eight hours while mom was at work, then after mom got home more running around and very loud music and what sounded like moving furniture until 11:30 when my husband finally snapped and yelled at them. Her answer was "well, I have a 2 year old" but for heaven's sake, your 2 year old should be in bed at 11:30!
Is it not common courtesy to keep your kids from running around, especially late at night, when there are people living below you? Or to keep your music at a level that can't be heard in other units? I hate to be the complaining tenant but this really was getting ridiculous.
Anyway, the new place has a much better layout, gorgeous hardwood floors and a beautiful big kitchen, so even though the process of moving sucks, I'm.sort of glad our hand was forced. And it's a SFH so no upstairs neighbors or even shared walls to worry about.
You quickly learn in apartments that people are NOT basically good (just reading the news should bear that out). They tend to do whatever they can get away with and quiet is a matter of luck too often.
Four things that should be banned in all apartments that aren't solid cement. This is only a partial list of course.
I had a similar problem in the past, too. One night I couldn't sleep at all because they kept dropping and rolling things onto the floor during the whole night. I told the manager about it and he said they had a rescue dog and their apartment was full of stuff and that this was not appropriate tenant behavior. He said they were warned and would be evicted if this continued. So I was fortunate, probably because this place was in a high-demand area near a university campus so they would be able to easily fill the space.
Four things that should be banned in all apartments that aren't solid cement. This is only a partial list of course.
Dogs
Subwoofers
Power tools
Ghetto people
Regardless if the apartment is solid cement, the subwoofer will go through it like a piece of cake. People think there is such a thing as sound barriers in apartment buildings, not with today's technology. You turn something up to full volume and multiple units can hear that "thump."
Power tools are something one has to deal with eventually when the building eventually needs renovations or repairs.
Dogs, never lived near any of them.
Ghetto people. This is tricky, because even ghetto people can figure out how to get on expensive leases at expensive places. I've been in expensive places and have heard weekly domestic disputes, ghetto stuff, smoking weed, loud music. Only way to solve that is to get a nice expensive house with far neighbors.
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