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Old 10-23-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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She absolutely needs to see a lawyer, preferably Gloria Allred , otherwise a local family law specialist. It sounds like she may be very passive though & the daughter may have to assert herself to start a process going. It's in the daughter's best interest as well. If she lives another 30 years, not impossible at all, she may be in big trouble & the daughter may end up footing a lot of bills.
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:51 AM
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Way back when I was younger, I remember a Hollywood "pal-i-money" case that drew a lot of public attention.
That was the Lee Marvin case in 1977, Marvin vs Marvin. The lady had changed her name to Marvin during the relationship. And one of the lawyers was also named Marvin. But I don't think the lady got much money from the case, if any.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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That was the Lee Marvin case in 1977, Marvin vs Marvin. The lady had changed her name to Marvin during the relationship. And one of the lawyers was also named Marvin. But I don't think the lady got much money from the case, if any.
That's only technically correct. They were together for six years, but she didn't change her name until they were breaking up. (Gee, I wonder why.) She was then evicted from his house the following month.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is a tough one for me as I worked from age 16 & always paid taxe. But my friend's mother lived with her boyfriend for 30 years and he just recently died. The mother just turned 62. The boyfriend's will states she can live in the house for 10 years but no cash. He always was controlling from what I understand.

Since she has not worked, except for occasional housekeeping which she didn't claim, does she have any recourse to get SSI or any type of help? I didn't want to raise any false hopes because I don't have the answer.
There has to be more to this story. She's getting money somewhere to pay for the utilities, food, etc isn't she ? And then there's property taxes which have to be paid, mortgage possibly, homeowners insurance, etc.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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I know it's cutting it close considering her age and the longevity of the relationship in question, but if she was married to your friends father for at least 10 years, there might be some hope there.

Some of you need to read Meo's first post again. The daughter is helping her mother. The mother is the one left with a place to live and no income.

If all else fails, I would sell my interest in the house (10 years living rent free) to the heirs. They might like to be able to sell the house. They have no guarantee what shape the property will be in 10 years from now. Maybe the will made arrangements for the expenses on the house.

I wouldn't spend any money on a lawyer at this point.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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OP, I know you're only a friend of the daughter, but let me get this straight.
-- This woman is 62 and lived with a man for 30+ years,so since she was in her late 20s or early 30s...
-- she hasn't worked except for occasional housekeeping which she didn't claim.
-- now he's died, and all she has is a 10 life estate in HIS house (not even a lifetime estate, damn)
-- no money squirreled away on the side? NONE? Not $500, 1,000?

HIS kids -- which he clearly had by a woman before his 30 year relationship with the friend's mom aren't 'being cooperative."
So this woman has been their 'step-mom' for 30 years? after all this time what kind of relationship do THEY have?
Also key to this for me -- at this point -- would be what kind of relationship did his kids have with HIM? For example this woman who their dad loved....IF she could afford to pay ALL home related costs, WOULD they let her stay there....beyond the ten years? Bit then again if they do that and she gets elderly, and then wants to move HER daughter in....look at the liability THEY could be on the hook for.

They don't HAVE to give her anything....BUT....would it be better for them and her...to agree -- for example -- to sell the house NOW....and give her a cut of the proceeds in lieu of the 10-years of living in the house. From the sale give her 25K, or 50K -- or whatever agreed to amount...so ALL SIDES are free of the responsibility house.

Also how many kids are we talking about that would have to agree to this?

As for her immediate financial needs...MAYBE she worked enough to get enough quarter/years together from her teens years until she met she winner of a guy she hooked up with 30 years ago to still qualify to get SOME kind of SMALL Soc. Sec payment.....but IF she qualified and takes it early at 62...it won't be much at all...but it could be something.

And yeah she needs a job STAT...but at 62?.....maybe department store sales the holiday season is coming up stores will be hiring? telephone rep? till then get some housekeeping gigs....
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I know it's cutting it close considering her age and the longevity of the relationship in question, but if she was married to your friends father for at least 10 years, there might be some hope there.

Some of you need to read Meo's first post again. The daughter is helping her mother. The mother is the one left with a place to live and no income.

If all else fails, I would sell my interest in the house (10 years living rent free) to the heirs. They might like to be able to sell the house. They have no guarantee what shape the property will be in 10 years from now. Maybe the will made arrangements for the expenses on the house.

I wouldn't spend any money on a lawyer at this point.
I went back and read the OP. That was not mentioned.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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That's only technically correct. They were together for six years, but she didn't change her name until they were breaking up. (Gee, I wonder why.) She was then evicted from his house the following month.
Michelle Triola. She was unsuccessful suing Lee Marvin, but went on to have a long relationship with Dick Van Dyke, and was with him when she died.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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I know it's cutting it close considering her age and the longevity of the relationship in question, but if she was married to your friends father for at least 10 years, there might be some hope there.

Some of you need to read Meo's first post again. The daughter is helping her mother. The mother is the one left with a place to live and no income.

If all else fails, I would sell my interest in the house (10 years living rent free) to the heirs. They might like to be able to sell the house. They have no guarantee what shape the property will be in 10 years from now. Maybe the will made arrangements for the expenses on the house.

I wouldn't spend any money on a lawyer at this point.
Meo doesn't say the daughter is helping the mother in the OP and she says they weren't married at all. So yeah, it wouldn't hurt to have a consultation with a lawyer---NOW.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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Meo doesn't say the daughter is helping the mother in the OP and she says they weren't married at all. So yeah, it wouldn't hurt to have a consultation with a lawyer---NOW.
You all are right. I was trying to make the point that it was the daughter talking to Meo about her mother, but that's not what I wrote. I don't think the daughter is in a position to give financial help.

I have not had good results with lawyers, with one stellar exception, over my lifetime, so I guess my personal feelings are showing
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