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Old 11-30-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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And now, they wish to reverse the trend. The suburbs are neglected, and they want to pour resources into downtown, although there are few people who choose to live there.
The suburbs are neglected? Now I know not to take anything you post seriously.
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Old 11-30-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Grey Gardens
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The suburbs are neglected? Now I know not to take anything you post seriously.
I adore when people are given just enough rope to hang themselves. This is one of those moments: He went from having a semi-argument to bat**** crazy in a matter of posts.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:21 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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The suburbs are neglected?

Have you driven on 1604 lately, anywhere between Pat Booker and Culebra? How about on 281 between 1604 and Bulverde?

Those suburban roadways are prime examples of suburban neglect. Proper upkeep would've resulted in expansion BEFORE traffic volume outgrew capacity.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:31 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Have you driven on 1604 lately, anywhere between Pat Booker and Culebra? How about on 281 between 1604 and Bulverde?

Those suburban roadways are prime examples of suburban neglect. Proper upkeep would've resulted in expansion BEFORE traffic volume outgrew capacity.
Lol that's not neglect. It's not even really bad planning. There are reasons those areas haven't been upgraded to freeways yet. Just search and read up on it. Not saying they don't need to be expanded. Put tolls for all I care. But SA has it good when it comes to traffic compared to elsewhere.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:40 AM
 
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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Have you driven on 1604 lately, anywhere between Pat Booker and Culebra? How about on 281 between 1604 and Bulverde?

Those suburban roadways are prime examples of suburban neglect. Proper upkeep would've resulted in expansion BEFORE traffic volume outgrew capacity.
That's not neglect, and not even a city of San Antonio issue. There are plenty of places to live in San Antonio outside the urban core where roadways have exccess capacity, but that has little to with the laughable example of suburban neglect.
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Old 12-01-2013, 03:10 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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Lol that's not neglect.
Then what is it?

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It's not even really bad planning.
Willful ignoring is more like it.

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There are reasons those areas haven't been upgraded to freeways yet.
Yeah, because they want to wait until the problem becomes so bad that the public demands an immediate solution, which gives them an opportunity to impose their desired toll roads.

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But SA has it good when it comes to traffic compared to elsewhere.
For now...
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Old 12-01-2013, 03:11 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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There are plenty of places to live in San Antonio outside the urban core where roadways have exccess capacity
Name one roadway that has "excess capacity."
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Old 12-01-2013, 08:04 AM
 
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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Name one roadway that has "excess capacity."
Eisenhauer road, upgraded to a four lane road with a center turn lane, it's never congested.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Have you driven on 1604 lately, anywhere between Pat Booker and Culebra? How about on 281 between 1604 and Bulverde?

Those suburban roadways are prime examples of suburban neglect. Proper upkeep would've resulted in expansion BEFORE traffic volume outgrew capacity.
I guess you just want to completely ignore the new 281/1604 interchange, extension of Wurzbach Parkway, adding of new lane on 1604 from 281 to Blanco, widening of Bulverde Road, widening of i10, widening of Blanco Road outside 1604, etc! If you want to see actual neglect, then please visit the near east and west side.

You're complaining about urban sprawl. Talk to the home builders and people moving out there about the congestion problem.

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Old 12-01-2013, 06:20 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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I guess you just want to completely ignore the new 281/1604 interchange, extension of Wurzbach Parkway, adding of new lane on 1604 from 281 to Blanco, widening of Bulverde Road, widening of i10, widening of Blanco Road outside 1604, etc! If you want to see actual neglect, then please visit the near east and west side.

You have cherry-picked isolated, band-aid "fixes" to much larger problems.


Wurzbach Pkwy hasn't been extended - it hasn't even been completed yet.

1604 doesn't need one new lane from 281 to Blanco, it needs 3 or 4 more lanes from I-35/Pat Booker all the way to Culebra (and back), and it needs to be a limited-access freeway the entire way.

And as far as your mention of the near east and west sides: thank you for underscoring my previous point about streets/curbs/sidewalks being in disrepair, or missing.
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