10-19-2013, 11:01 PM
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Hi guys,
I got a tech job in Silicon Valley earlier this year, and I have been living in an apartment in Santa Clara by myself. I like the place I live in, in that it is close to work (15 minutes), I have everything I would need close by, and on the weekends, I can go to SF if I want.
However, since I am a lemming, and I have not raised myself above the plane of superficial human needs, the idea of living in SF next year, is spinning in my head, at least to try it out. I am looking for some suggestions on where I can get a 1BR apartment that is close to
1) Caltrain Station.
2) 101 or 280.
I make 105 k per year, and I really don't want to spend more than 2K on an apartment. Do you guys have any suggestions on which areas I should look for? Any traffic bottlenecks I should be aware of? That would be a huge help in determining if living in SF is for me.
Also why is it so hard to meet people after school?
10-20-2013, 11:45 PM
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Unless your employer provides a shuttle between the city and your office, I would recommend against living in SF. If you think you can handle the traffic, try a weekly rental through airbnb and see how you manage the commute before you have to commit to a place.
10-21-2013, 04:21 PM
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Craiglist has 6 listings for under 2000 a month that have the word "caltrain" in the listing.
Here is the list.
If you don't mind a roommate or two -- note that you would have to interview with them because they have to decide if they want to live with you -- you can get something as low as $550 in that area.
List of rooms in SF with the word caltrain in the listing, lowest price first.
If you remove the word caltrain from the apartment listing, there are 366 listings in San Francisco for your own apartment under 2000 a month, the cheapest is $650 a month. You can click on "map view" to see a map of where the listings are. If you do that, it looks like there are lots of apartments available for under 2000 on the other side of Market from the Caltrain station.
(Caltrain is at 4th and King, by the Bay Bridge)
10-21-2013, 04:24 PM
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I wouldn't worry about traffic, if the job is in SF and you're working in SF, you can get to work either with public transit or walking. SF is only like 10 square miles.
I don't know why people would drive to work in the Bay Area, especially SF or Silicon Valley.
10-21-2013, 04:35 PM
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(I would definitely want a car...I can't afford it right now but I want one...I just don't think I would necessarily drive it to work.)
10-21-2013, 08:53 PM
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I wouldn't worry about traffic, if the job is in SF and you're working in SF, you can get to work either with public transit or walking. SF is only like 10 square miles.
I don't know why people would drive to work in the Bay Area, especially SF or Silicon Valley.
The OP works in Silicon Valley, not SF, so this is not applicable.
10-21-2013, 10:32 PM
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The OP works in Silicon Valley, not SF, so this is not applicable.
Yeah, but OP is saying, they currently live in SV and are considering living in SF and commuting from there so yes, still no car needed.
Just live near Caltrain at 4th and King, get on Caltrain, get off at the Caltrain nearest the place you work (there are several Caltrain stations in Silicon Valley) and then take a bus/walk/bike from there as desired.
The express/"baby bullet" trains take about an hour from SF to San Jose, and IIRC there are 2 or 3 stations before the San Jose Diridon station so it would be less than an hour into Silicon Valley. The whole trip might be 1.5 hours to 2 hours, but you're not driving in stop and go traffic so there's no road rage.
The biggest drawback I can think of is that Caltrain monthly tickets can be a little expensive for someone like myself on minimum wage,
but OP says they make six figures so that shouldn't be a problem. Clipper makes it a lot easier, just tag on in SF, tag off in SV, then tag when you board a bus. If your Caltrain pass covers travel in Santa Clara County it will be counted as a monthly pass for Santa Clara County VTA.
Having said that, yes, I would stay in SV myself, however it is possible and pratical to go from SF to SV every day on transit.
10-21-2013, 11:55 PM
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Yeah, but OP is saying, they currently live in SV and are considering living in SF and commuting from there so yes, still no car needed.
Just live near Caltrain at 4th and King, get on Caltrain, get off at the Caltrain nearest the place you work (there are several Caltrain stations in Silicon Valley) and then take a bus/walk/bike from there as desired.
The express/"baby bullet" trains take about an hour from SF to San Jose, and IIRC there are 2 or 3 stations before the San Jose Diridon station so it would be less than an hour into Silicon Valley. The whole trip might be 1.5 hours to 2 hours, but you're not driving in stop and go traffic so there's no road rage.
The biggest drawback I can think of is that Caltrain monthly tickets can be a little expensive for someone like myself on minimum wage,
but OP says they make six figures so that shouldn't be a problem. Clipper makes it a lot easier, just tag on in SF, tag off in SV, then tag when you board a bus. If your Caltrain pass covers travel in Santa Clara County it will be counted as a monthly pass for Santa Clara County VTA.
Having said that, yes, I would stay in SV myself, however it is possible and pratical to go from SF to SV every day on transit.
Uh, you said if the job is in SF, and you're living in SF, then you don't need a car. I was addressing that. Now, or someone who lives in SF and wants to commute to SV via Caltrain, it is only practical if their office in the Valley is convenient to a CalTrain station, either walking distance, biking, or a convenient bus/shuttle (such as the Marguerite shuttle bus to Stanford U from the PA Caltrain station).
A lot of major employers, such as Cisco, Intel, aren't conveniently sited to the CalTrain station.
It's not just the money spent for the commute, it's also the time factor. Figure a minimum of 1.5 hrs each way. I know there's the cachet about living in SF, but during the week, one is likely to be too exhausted to enjoy the city if they have to do a long commute.
I concur with the idea that it's better to live close to where you work, and go into the city on the weekends.
10-22-2013, 03:01 PM
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Disregard what I wrote 5 minutes ago, silverkris is right, about 1.5 hours each way. So, up to OP whether it is worth it.
(just to be clear, 1.5 hours total, from sf caltrain to cisco campus. You get on light rail in mountain view, it is a combined caltrain and light rail station, then 30 minutes to Cisco.
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10-22-2013, 03:22 PM
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I wouldn't worry about traffic, if the job is in SF and you're working in SF, you can get to work either with public transit or walking. SF is only like 10 square miles.
I don't know why people would drive to work in the Bay Area, especially SF or Silicon Valley.
Because public transit can often take much longer than driving in a car, even during rush hour.
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People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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but OP says they make six figures so that shouldn't be a problem. Clipper makes it a lot easier, just tag on in SF, tag off in SV, then tag when you board a bus. If your Caltrain pass covers travel in Santa Clara County it will be counted as a monthly pass for Santa Clara County VTA. 
