Does anyone know about 645 Bush St?

[Palmer Eldritch]

The crime in the tendernob probably depends on what the situation is in the Tenderloin. It's a little less ghetto than it was back then but definitely do not try to bring a car unless you have a space to park it. That area is one of my favorites sections of San Francisco because of its urban density and energy. Parking there is horrendous and the tickets come fast. If you've lived in NYC then you shouldn't have a problem with safety in that neighborhood.

[reignofspring]

Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch

The crime in the tendernob probably depends on what the situation is in the Tenderloin. It's a little less ghetto than it was back then but definitely do not try to bring a car unless you have a space to park it. That area is one of my favorites sections of San Francisco because of its urban density and energy. Parking there is horrendous and the tickets come fast. If you've lived in NYC then you shouldn't have a problem with safety in that neighborhood.

Tendernob? I've never heard it referred to as that before. If it's anything like the ternderloin I'm totally not interested!

I thought the area was supposed to be nice-- is there a particular street where LNH becomes more like the 'loin than it is like NH?

[NorthernCalifornia]

645 Bush is at the bottom of Nob Hill. The Tenderloin is a good 4-5 blocks away and with the geography/streets in between it's really a different area. The immediate area at 645 Bush is actually very nice, the Ritz Carlton is one block up on Pine and stockton.

There is one building on that block that is rather rundown and I've seen ads for apartments there that are cheaper than the rest of the neighborhood. It's a very large blue building and I've never been inside but from the outside can tell you it's probably nothing special. The rest of the neighborhood is much better, basically there's just this one building and a few others nearby that have not been gentrified in the past 20 years and possibly house transitional housing, disabled people and the like.

If it's any other building on that block you're likely ok. Pictures should be provided by anyone renting over the internet to someone site-unseen. The apartments in that neighborhood (old buildings, post-1906 earthquake construction) are typically compact, wood floors, bay windows. Small but livable and strong.

The area is ok for parking if you're not trying to use your car everyday. There is residential permit parking available which makes leaving your car on the street possible. Without a permit or a garage don't try it for even a week. This is not an exaggeration. To qualify for the permit you must register your car at that address and for some people that's a problem.

In terms of location you probably don't need a car a the area is very central. You are literally 5 minutes walk from the financial district. There is good street life, restaurants, bars, dry cleaners and all that very nearby. There are markets on every block typically. The area is definitely safe day and night. If someone breaks into your car you had something visible that should not have been. If it happens 7 times and you're not leaving stuff on the seat well you've go a stalker!

Anyway, it's a good area but if it's too cheap for the neighborhood there's probably a reason. Make sure to get a look at some pictures or be prepared to live in a fairly scuzzy building in a rather nice area.

[Palmer Eldritch]

Originally Posted by NorthernCalifornia

If someone breaks into your car you had something visible that should not have been. If it happens 7 times and you're not leaving stuff on the seat well you've go a stalker!

I think it was probably a couple of things. It was back in 1992-94 and so I think things were slightly more sketchy back then. Also, at the time I had the number two most stolen car in America. For some reason car thieves had a woody for it. The second time it got it broken into I put a note on the window explaining that there was nothing in the car. That didn't help and people kept breaking into it. There was never anything valuable in view and the stereo had already been stolen. I decided not to fix the wing window because it would just get broken again. Then they broke the other wing window because they didn't realize that there was already a broken wing window on the other side. At that point I just left all the doors unlocked so thieves could just rummage around in the car and then go on their way. After that I had the problem of the crack ***** turning tricks in the car (no joke). One day I went to the car and saw that the trunk lock had been damaged with a screwdriver in an attempt to break into it. As a result I could no longer open the trunk. I got the trunk lock fixed and left it open so people wouldn't break it again. After that someone vandalized the trunk lock from the inside. Why? I don't know. One time late at night I looked out my apartment window and saw someone's legs protruding from the door of my car. They were probably looking under the seat. I yelled at them and they left. Another time a doorman saw someone breaking into my car and called the police. The person was arrested and the police towed my car. I asked them why they towed my car as it was parked legally. They explained that they did not want to be liable in case the car was stolen or broken into again because of the broken window. I had to take a day off work to go to a tow hearing in order to get the tow charges refunded. At least they were only $170.00 back then. Now it's over $300.00. These days I have a garage but I certainly paid my dues.

[reignofspring]

Northern~ thank you, that's so helpful. The building is not blue-- it's brick with white accents, 5 windows across, and three trees in front. A smallish studio (about 400 sq feet) is $1400 with most utilities included. That's not too cheap, is it?