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Old 03-07-2014, 10:12 PM
 
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longer we do nothing, the more properties we see falling beyond the repairable line. This increase the expansion of ghetto standards and mass area deterioration

Don't you think this has already happened? Pie in the sky as long as small minded people live here. Nobody wants to come here, just look at how LA pays the movie industry to film here. We're in the hole with that every year. And no, no one is interested in ideas.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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longer we do nothing, the more properties we see falling beyond the repairable line. This increase the expansion of ghetto standards and mass area deterioration

Don't you think this has already happened? Pie in the sky as long as small minded people live here. Nobody wants to come here, just look at how LA pays the movie industry to film here. We're in the hole with that every year. And no, no one is interested in ideas.
Why not ideas? Is Shreveport not capable of change? The whole community seems to hate itself.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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Watch this scenario play out: During the Election Campaigning, EVERY Candidate will be willing to talk to anyone whom they think they can get a vote from. THEN, once they are in office, they adopt this "per-occupied mentality as if they are doing the citizens a favor to engage with them for 45 seconds.

I'm wondering at this point and stage, why they are not publishing any documentary comments about what they want to do, how they want to do it and talking about unity among the masses. I do wonder if they are spending any time to build multi-racial coalitions for business, growth modeling and other things which by fact, must be built with multi-racial collaborations. Are we waiting on some special event before this become a concern?

Who Among the aspiring candidate will build a youth coalition to address the younger peoples concerns.

It is quite amazing how we suffer from a idea deficit and a lack of support for ideas. Even in this forum which can be a microcosm of the lackluster representation of how we function.

If we don't come up with some IDEAS for economic growth we will suffer many years of results behind lack of actions in these regards. Fast Food joints can only do so much for an economy. but there are downsides to the Fast Foods, even thought they generate income. They also promote "Obesity", and we certainly have a city wide problem in this area of what we should have as a concern. We need other growth to blend in with this type of growth.

I am yet, to figure out why the Church which took over the Mall, does not pro-actively try to market the Property which sits at one of its entrances, which use to be some type of auto repair facility. It just sits there empty. Rather than to market it with reduced cost to potential occupants.

But also, inside, why did they not utilize a section of the Old Mall to provide "new start up business, some facilities at a reduced rate to improve economics in the area.
If Burlington Coat Factory ever decides to leave, it will be a travesty of devastation to this massive land space.

The back side of this facility has all that land under-utilized with no plan to build or do anything with it, except sit on it.

This is only one location within the city, which is suffering from Poor Usage Plans. It is very difficult to attract the growth we need when so much is used by the non productive means. This same scenario exist downtown.
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Old 08-04-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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We should take these type of headlines seriously. What do we have as a plan to promote good business growth?
Do we have any agreement with the financial community, which has some progressive programs to support funding for start ups.

I know this is a critical areas which should become one of concern. We also don't have any progressive agreements with the financial community to support 'Home improvement lending'.

but a great creative too would be for the local Real Estate Organizations, to work with banks to develop low interest loans for 'Homes UNDER 100k. This would initiate re-development as well as buyers who buy and fix up various homes.
The Buy and Repair lending could have a good robust program, based on good evaluation of properties to grasp and not their appraised value in a repaired condition and structure loans accordingly. Thje fix up portion of the loan would be managed by a loan voucher program, That would insure the proposed and planned work meet with the inspection standards. Contractors will be paid only when they complete various stages of the repair work.

We need to think creatively about how to grow, how to rebuild. The longer we do nothing, the more properties we see falling beyond the repairable line. This increase the expansion of ghetto standards and mass area deterioration.

Sadly, no one is interested in Ideas.
I do agree with you would like to talk to you more about this problem...
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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I do agree with you would like to talk to you more about this problem...
I would be interested in expounding on this subject and its content.
We need to look at ways to make the paradigm shift in how we move ahead. It's far less difficult to do so than it seems. It's a matter of getting the right players on-board to grasp the benefit and its circle of progressive development which can unfold.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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I would be interested in expounding on this subject and its content.
We need to look at ways to make the paradigm shift in how we move ahead. It's far less difficult to do so than it seems. It's a matter of getting the right players on-board to grasp the benefit and its circle of progressive development which can unfold.

Indeed, the sloughing off of cheap plastic, and donning of clean porcelain. A simple venting of the roof, and the installation of the proper cooling equipment. Sound deadening appropriately applied. Nah, bro, you still have a porta-potty, lol!

Pretty words won't fix Shreveport.
Money won't fix Shreveport.
Politicians won't fix Shreveport.
The citizens will have to, and the citizens are not up to said task. Those who can move, do, and those who can't, continue the legacy that is Shreveport.

How else is there to put this...GIGO. You can't expect a city counsel to fix that. The people have to want it, and they don't. The Old Money is entrenched and unmoved by the plight (and largely unaffected) of Shreveport, and the trash is too busy enjoying being trash, like a pig wallowing in filth.

It's Flint, MI. It's Detroit on a mini-scale. It's every town that saw a booming beginning and fell to crime and corruption and senseless violence for the sake of itself. That is how this story ends. Same as Flint, MI. Eventually, more and more people will reach the point of "**********!" and leave. At some point, it will truly fall off the deep end as the level of tax-paying citizens drops to an all-time nadir.

Literally the only thing keeping Shreveport alive is Barksdale. It props up the medical community (many MANY medical staff are married to .mil stationed there), and it props up the housing market, keeping houses artificially over-priced.

The Casino's are done, now that Indian Nations opened just north of DFW, and tickets through Southwest to Vegas are what, $150 round trip from anywhere in the US?

GM is done, Elio is a stupid joke on stupid people.

The movie industry seems to have petered out.

The Fracking industry is/will be moving out.

That leaves LSU, which is flopping around like a dying fish, and WK, which is kept afloat by professionals who are married to people from Barksdale, or are past retirement age and work only because of the market collapse a few years back, and new grads looking to leave. WK already dominates, and soon will TRULY dominate the region, making it the no-competition mandated healthcare provider in the area, and I have NEVER seen that work well for employees or customers.

Shreveport/Bossier has NO sustainable industry, aside from Barksdale, which is there simply to maintain an aging fleet of bombers that would be obsolete 20 years ago if the USSR hadn't dissolved.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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Your disdain for Shreveport is recorded, though you claim to live in Arkansans, you seem to have a great interest in Shreveport.
Who knows if it will transform and change the dynamics of what its future will be. Actually, America as a whole has to come to terms with itself. It has to relearn that no nation can prosper without providing a greater % of producing what it consumes.
Poverty is what it is and it has a whole cycle and circle of negatives which is why its defined as being "poverty".

We as a nation, gave up Industry "willingly", based on a delusion pushed to the people by the likes of PhD paid for by the industry who wanted to chase slave wage labor on foreign soil.
It turns out, that the % of profit they claim, is in direct relation to the % of deterioration of our infrastructure, our cities and our community standards across this nation, not just in Shreveport.

We don't make the things we utilize nor the things we consume - YET we pay high prices for foreign things, and often more than what it would cost if it was made in America.
If American began producing Cell Phones on American lands, within 2 yrs the cost of these things would fall tremendously. There is no reason for American's to pay $300-400-500+ for a cell phone, when it could be made and marketed here for less.

Malaysia set out on a course and declared that it would build Cell phones on its own soil. nay-sayers spoke but it has not deterred them for their objective. They know the supply chain will move itself to where the Industry is.

We on the other hand find every reason why we can't do anything. We have become a nation who seeks our reasons to make claim as to why we can't do anything. Heck we can't even make the clothes we wear. Here we are in the South and we can't even produce Produce!!!!! That is pathetic.

We have Pecan Orchards, which have become nothing more than overgrown weed fields with trees sticking up in it.

We made ourselves dependent on China and then we support being dependent on China. heck, you can't pass a Walmart that is not full of vehicles; knowing full well that 95% of what's in there came directly from China. But people can't wait to get paid to rush there.

All we see now is big chain eateries, who take our money and send it to their corporate headquarters. then we are stuck on stupid with being and remaining a "low wage region". because anyone earning a living salary detest seeing anyone else earn a living salary, especially once someone slaps a title behind their name.

China built its industry using OJT (on the job training labor), Yet we let the degree riders tell us that every job needs a degree and we bought into that ignorance. China has dominated the Industrial Arena, and they did it with (OJT Trained employees). Here we want to tell American's they can't compete, because University has duped the people to think only holding a degree denotes the ability to become and be competent.

America was built by (OJT trained employees) and it can be again, when people stop allowing the Business known better as Universities selling degree to stop deluding the people to think a degree is needed for everything, (down to the silly point as if a degree is needed to put ice cream in a cone)
We can train many many people who have and can develop great skills via tech and vocational programs, jobs especially assembly job, can train people to put pieces together. The very same as China has done for the past 30 yrs with (OJT trained employees)

America could pay people a base of $15 and hour and still produce and sell Cell phones, televisions, kitchen appliances and everything other thing we use, and bring it to market for less than what we pay for foreign made products.
We pay for high mark up by importers and the executives games inflating the cost of things to the same or higher price than if it was made in America.

We ship our money away, which means our infrastructure suffers, our cities suffer and our citizens suffer. We don't have in National or Local politicians who even have the concern of idea, of what it means to Re-industrialize America.
AS Long as they don't have the idea, then it never becomes a subject and they are ready to squash any idea related to re-industrializing America.

Shreveport has massive facilities suitable for use to market for Industrial Growth, but we don't even know how to began the process or embrace the idea.

Our streets which is well known to be a disaster beyond reason. We should have long ago built up our Streets Department. Street Maintenance is and has always been a ongoing need, therefore the department should have been built to level to meet the needs.

We've gone 8 yrs without a Economic Development Department - How is that even remotely reasonable. Besides we don't need some stuff shirt economic director, we need someone who has a creative mind with a vision. It does not need some massive degree dressed person for this, we simply need people with a vision who can communicate it !!!

Nothing will get done when the first criteria is always a list of degree's. I'm not say that education is not important, I'm saying American has been crashed every since it became a degree obsessed nation. We have many people with good ideas and good communication skills, but sadly when you hawk a degree ahead of simply being a good communicator who can and does have a vision and understanding the need to pursue making it happen. the sad thing is often times the status claim of degree can get in the way of getting things done.
Shreveport is too hung up on paying "consultants to do studies", when we have the stat's staring us in the face.

It takes us too long to do anything. On the other Hand !!! Bossier, get's an idea and they run with it and they get things done. They know when to get out of the way, as well as they understand how to take on debt to build for the future. Why can they do it but Shreveport can't ? ! ? ! ?

The building on Texas St., that is suppose to become a living quarters, where in the heck did they get this drag butt developer/contractor. It seems they are more interested in bleeding the contract with a skeleton crew and outrageous time wasted to remodel a building, and no one seems to have any concern for how long it is taking.
If this type of assignment of contractor was given the job to remodel the Slattery building, it would turn into a 10 yr project.
We don't even have a concept or even a remote concept of what to do with the Slattery Building, or the Old Oil and Gas building a block down the street. They sit as simply non functional building, wasting away.

We simply have no concept of how to market the city and its attributes.

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Old 08-10-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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Your disdain for Shreveport is recorded, though you claim to live in Arkansans, you seem to have a great interest in Shreveport. I moved 6mo ago, roughly. yes, I have great disdain for Shreveport. I hope I can influence other successful people to avoid it all together so they don't have to deal with what I did.
Who knows if it will transform and change the dynamics of what its future will be. Actually, America as a whole has to come to terms with itself. It has to relearn that no nation can prosper without providing a greater % of producing what it consumes.
Poverty is what it is and it has a whole cycle and circle of negatives which is why its defined as being "poverty". Very true, but poverty alone doesn't create crime and issues like Shreveport has.

We as a nation, gave up Industry "willingly", based on a delusion pushed to the people by the likes of PhD paid for by the industry who wanted to chase slave wage labor on foreign soil.
It turns out, that the % of profit they claim, is in direct relation to the % of deterioration of our infrastructure, our cities and our community standards across this nation, not just in Shreveport.
Yet America has attracted numerous auto makers. Many Toyota's, for example, are now made in America. Other brands, as well, but Toyota just stands out to me.

We don't make the things we utilize nor the things we consume - YET we pay high prices for foreign things, and often more than what it would cost if it was made in America.
If American began producing Cell Phones on American lands, within 2 yrs the cost of these things would fall tremendously. There is no reason for American's to pay $300-400-500+ for a cell phone, when it could be made and marketed here for less. Maybe, but you're not taking into account that cell phones now have quad-core processors and great cameras and blah blah blah. I really do think they are legit $3-800 devices, no-matter where they are made.

Malaysia set out on a course and declared that it would build Cell phones on its own soil. nay-sayers spoke but it has not deterred them for their objective. They know the supply chain will move itself to where the Industry is.

We on the other hand find every reason why we can't do anything. We have become a nation who seeks our reasons to make claim as to why we can't do anything. Heck we can't even make the clothes we wear. Here we are in the South and we can't even produce Produce!!!!! That is pathetic. A lot of that is due to land/population expansion, etc. Population growth has caused us to be come more dependent on outside sources, not necessarily other things alone.

We have Pecan Orchards, which have become nothing more than overgrown weed fields with trees sticking up in it.

We made ourselves dependent on China and then we support being dependent on China. heck, you can't pass a Walmart that is not full of vehicles; knowing full well that 95% of what's in there came directly from China. But people can't wait to get paid to rush there. Well, don't ignore all of the Americans who work there, and the American truckers that brought it there, and so on and so forth. It's not like it's 100% China that's benefiting.

All we see now is big chain eateries, who take our money and send it to their corporate headquarters. then we are stuck on stupid with being and remaining a "low wage region". because anyone earning a living salary detest seeing anyone else earn a living salary, especially once someone slaps a title behind their name.

China built its industry using OJT (on the job training labor), Yet we let the degree riders tell us that every job needs a degree and we bought into that ignorance. China has dominated the Industrial Arena, and they did it with (OJT Trained employees). Here we want to tell American's they can't compete, because University has duped the people to think only holding a degree denotes the ability to become and be competent. I agree somewhat, but I also disagree. People without the ability to pass a 2-8 year degree have no business in some fields. There is a REASON "Made in China" is not very inspiring when it comes to QA/QC and "will this thing last?!"

America was built by (OJT trained employees) and it can be again, when people stop allowing the Business known better as Universities selling degree to stop deluding the people to think a degree is needed for everything, (down to the silly point as if a degree is needed to put ice cream in a cone)
We can train many many people who have and can develop great skills via tech and vocational programs, jobs especially assembly job, can train people to put pieces together. The very same as China has done for the past 30 yrs with (OJT trained employees)
Again this is flawed. When America was built, it wasn't nearly as complex as a 100 story sky-scraper and a multi-mile bridge and cutting edge surgery and so on. There is more to know, now, and more learning needed to know it. If you're okay with damping down the average life-span to 30-50 years or so and all that, then yeah, we can go back to how we used to do stuff...

America could pay people a base of $15 and hour and still produce and sell Cell phones, televisions, kitchen appliances and everything other thing we use, and bring it to market for less than what we pay for foreign made products.
We pay for high mark up by importers and the executives games inflating the cost of things to the same or higher price than if it was made in America.

We ship our money away, which means our infrastructure suffers, our cities suffer and our citizens suffer. We don't have in National or Local politicians who even have the concern of idea, of what it means to Re-industrialize America.
AS Long as they don't have the idea, then it never becomes a subject and they are ready to squash any idea related to re-industrializing America.

Shreveport has massive facilities suitable for use to market for Industrial Growth, but we don't even know how to began the process or embrace the idea.

Our streets which is well known to be a disaster beyond reason. We should have long ago built up our Streets Department. Street Maintenance is and has always been a ongoing need, therefore the department should have been built to level to meet the needs.

We've gone 8 yrs without a Economic Development Department - How is that even remotely reasonable. Besides we don't need some stuff shirt economic director, we need someone who has a creative mind with a vision. It does not need some massive degree dressed person for this, we simply need people with a vision who can communicate it !!!

Nothing will get done when the first criteria is always a list of degree's. I'm not say that education is not important, I'm saying American has been crashed every since it became a degree obsessed nation. We have many people with good ideas and good communication skills, but sadly when you hawk a degree ahead of simply being a good communicator who can and does have a vision and understanding the need to pursue making it happen. the sad thing is often times the status claim of degree can get in the way of getting things done.
Shreveport is too hung up on paying "consultants to do studies", when we have the stat's staring us in the face.

It takes us too long to do anything. On the other Hand !!! Bossier, get's an idea and they run with it and they get things done. They know when to get out of the way, as well as they understand how to take on debt to build for the future. Why can they do it but Shreveport can't ? ! ? ! ?

Don't forget Bossier and their Boardwalk...that was a SNAFU! I know the family who designed it. Went to school with the guy's daughter.

The building on Texas St., that is suppose to become a living quarters, where in the heck did they get this drag butt developer/contractor. It seems they are more interested in bleeding the contract with a skeleton crew and outrageous time wasted to remodel a building, and no one seems to have any concern for how long it is taking.
If this type of assignment of contractor was given the job to remodel the Slattery building, it would turn into a 10 yr project.
We don't even have a concept or even a remote concept of what to do with the Slattery Building, or the Old Oil and Gas building a block down the street. They sit as simply non functional building, wasting away.

Shreveport tolerates and encourages failure by tolerating it. That is why people do things like take forever with a skeleton crew, etc.

We simply have no concept of how to market the city and its attributes.

WHAT.
ATTRIBUTES?

The only attribute Shreveport ever really had was proximity to a waterway, and considering how many barges now travel down the Red...
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