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Old 04-21-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Fullerton, CA
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Hi,

For thirteen years, I have taught high school and the last few have got me down. Anyone else ever feel like this isn't what you signed up for as a career?

I remember wanting to make a difference in kids' lives, and I know I do to a certain extent, but I feel like there is so much baloney and teaching to tests, that they don't get an education that will really be useful.

It also feels to me like the kids are changing in behavior as a whole and not for the better. I am wondering if I can do this until I'm sixty five if things continue at this rate.

I used to look forward to work and have fun once there. Now I hate Sunday evenings because I know my weekend is almost over. It's pathetic.

Sigh, I just needed to vent a little, I am sorry.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Where I'm At
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I've seen more than a few documentaries on PBS that make me wonder why anyone in their right mind would choose to be a teacher. I tip my hat to all teachers and all mothers because you couldn't pay me to be either; I would be in jail for "stompin' the sh*t" out of a smart-mouthed teenager .
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Hi,

For thirteen years, I have taught high school and the last few have got me down. Anyone else ever feel like this isn't what you signed up for as a career?

I remember wanting to make a difference in kids' lives, and I know I do to a certain extent, but I feel like there is so much baloney and teaching to tests, that they don't get an education that will really be useful.

It also feels to me like the kids are changing in behavior as a whole and not for the better. I am wondering if I can do this until I'm sixty five if things continue at this rate.

I used to look forward to work and have fun once there. Now I hate Sunday evenings because I know my weekend is almost over. It's pathetic.

Sigh, I just needed to vent a little, I am sorry.
I feel this way. I signed up to "Raise the bar" by bringing subject matter expertise to the classroom only to be told to teach to the bottom of the class. I feel like I'm wasting my true talents and lack the skills I need to deal with that bottom of the class, most of whom don't even want to take my class and put in little effort if any at all.

I feel the same way on Sunday these days. This year, it's because of two students in one class who are disrespectful and insubordinate and know that I'm the one who will get into trouble if I send them to the office. Aside from that class, I'm having an enjoyable year. I have several kids who ask higher level questions and we have great discussions in class because of them. I just have a good mix of kids. Except two...

I don't know what the solution is. I guess we have to hang on to the good stuff. The kids who learn. The kids we help and know we did good by them...and count the days until summer....
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:27 PM
 
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As a high school teacher, being called retarded and other names is all in a good days worth of work. Colleagues back biting is also included. Same ol' same ol', nothing to see her folks move along kind of deal.

Teachers are under attack because parents don't parent. The father is thrown under the bus. watch the sitcoms on today's television. men aren't strong. They can't beat their kids so they are feared and respected. they can't discipline a kid by showing aggression or any type of masculine behavior. no rules are set because daddy is paying child support to a woman who won't let him see his kids. no, I don't have kids nor child support but I see it. Society says it's wrong to be a male. there's also a rise in single parent households as if that's a fashionably chic thing happening in society.

I don't bother with girls but I stand aggressively against boys and teach them how to behave and what they should expect. I let them know I don't care about liking each other. the goal is to succeed. when you win, everyone goes home happy. Win on the state exams and report cards that is. Boys have no role model in society. How should they behave? What is it like to be a young man? Don't worry, facebook and youtube videos will show you how to behave and porn will teach you anything else your stupid family considers taboo (that is, if you have a family).

Anyway I am wasting time moving off topic. A vast majority entering the profession today will not do their 25/30 years in it. It just isn't possible especially with the power given to children. One allegation or an oversight on a teacher's part and it's all over. It's just another rank and file job like a bus mechanic, etc. clock in your hours and go home.

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Old 04-25-2013, 06:32 AM
 
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As a high school teacher, being called retarded and other names is all in a good days worth of work. Colleagues back biting is also included. Same ol' same ol', nothing to see her folks move along kind of deal.

Teachers are under attack because parents don't parent. The father is thrown under the bus. watch the sitcoms on today's television. men aren't strong. They can't beat their kids so they are feared and respected. They can't discipline a kid by showing aggression or any type of masculine behavior. no rules are set because daddy is paying child support to a woman who won't let him see his kids. no, I don't have kids nor child support but I see it. Society says it's wrong to be a male. there's also a rise in single parent households as if that's a fashionably chic thing happening in society.

I don't bother with girls but I stand aggressively against boys and teach them how to behave and what they should expect. I let them know I don't care about liking each other, the goal is to succeed. When you win, everyone goes home happy. Win on the state exams and report cards that is. Boys have no role model in society. How should they behave? What is it like to be a young man? Don't worry, facebook and youtube videos will show you how to behave and porn will teach you anything else your stupid family considers taboo (that is, if you have a family).

Anyway I am wasting time moving off topic. A vast majority entering the profession today will not do their 25/30 years in it. It just isn't possible especially with the power given to children. One allegation or an oversight on a teacher's part and it's all over. It's just another rank and file job like a bus mechanic, etc. clock in your hours and go home.
What the heck does, "I don't bother with girls but I stand aggressively against boys and teach them how to behave and what they should expect" mean?? You ignore the girls and teach the boys what to expect?? What should boys expect?

Outside of teaching, the norm these days is not to stay in the same position for even ten years. Everyone gets burnt out doing the same old thing, not sure why teaching should be any different.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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As a high school teacher, being called retarded and other names is all in a good days worth of work. Colleagues back biting is also included. Same ol' same ol', nothing to see her folks move along kind of deal.

Teachers are under attack because parents don't parent. The father is thrown under the bus. watch the sitcoms on today's television. men aren't strong. They can't beat their kids so they are feared and respected. they can't discipline a kid by showing aggression or any type of masculine behavior. no rules are set because daddy is paying child support to a woman who won't let him see his kids. no, I don't have kids nor child support but I see it. Society says it's wrong to be a male. there's also a rise in single parent households as if that's a fashionably chic thing happening in society.

I don't bother with girls but I stand aggressively against boys and teach them how to behave and what they should expect. I let them know I don't care about liking each other. the goal is to succeed. when you win, everyone goes home happy. Win on the state exams and report cards that is. Boys have no role model in society. How should they behave? What is it like to be a young man? Don't worry, facebook and youtube videos will show you how to behave and porn will teach you anything else your stupid family considers taboo (that is, if you have a family).

Anyway I am wasting time moving off topic. A vast majority entering the profession today will not do their 25/30 years in it. It just isn't possible especially with the power given to children. One allegation or an oversight on a teacher's part and it's all over. It's just another rank and file job like a bus mechanic, etc. clock in your hours and go home.

GIRLS need to know the same stuff as the boys!! GIRLS need to know how BOYS need to interact with them. GIRLS need to know it is perfectly acceptable to be SMART and that looks is woth little in society if they allow the patriarchial attitude to mow them over.


GIRLS need to know **** SHAMING IS WRONG and they are just as capable as ANY boy. GIRLS need to know they have the right to make choices that directly affect them and not to surrender CHOICES to others.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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Don't be silly. Guest4 isn't a real educator. He's a sniper.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:41 PM
 
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What the heck does, "I don't bother with girls but I stand aggressively against boys and teach them how to behave and what they should expect" mean?? You ignore the girls and teach the boys what to expect?? What should boys expect?

Outside of teaching, the norm these days is not to stay in the same position for even ten years. Everyone gets burnt out doing the same old thing, not sure why teaching should be any different.
When girls attack me verbally (quite common), I am not quick to reprimand them. I work with another teacher since SPED self-contained has disappeared. The other teacher deals with it. I am not interested in little Susie going home, telling mommy I touched her inappropriately (a kid did this in junior high to a teacher who failed her and almost got the teacher in trouble - only after investigating did she confess under pressure that she had lied and stated a false accusation), and having to deal with such nightmares.

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Old 04-27-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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I taught school for over twenty years. The good thing for me, is that I taught Special Education, and when I felt bored, or whatever, I would do something different in Special Education. I went from classroom teaching, to Itinerant, to transition Counseling, to Special Education Coordinator. So, I was not bored. I sort of miss teaching, I had a lot of fun. My issue was the balance of pleasing parents and administrators. It was a lot of stress for me. And I remember being in several situations of not wanting to throw other, unqualified teachers under the bus, but not wanting to support them either. Silence in those situations is just as bad. No win.

Your personal integrity and professionalism is what will help you immensely as a teacher. I once had a student claim I called her an ethnic, racist word. Untrue, but her parents were trying to use this situation as leverage to get her transferred, my administrator was the same ethnicity as the parents. And I had met my administrator maybe three times in three years. I was pretty sure this meeting was not going to go well for me. The parents went on and on about how their daughter should not have to tolerate racism...blah blah...
And they went into cultural differences, and how I did not understand their culture....surprise, my administrator said that she supported my version of events and saw no issues. Wow. Those parents and their daughter were stunned. I think they were expecting me to be fired in front of them. Maybe even a settlement from the school.

So, I feel your pain. Been there. Finally got tired of it all and moved on. I went down in hourly pay for a year, no more summers off, but now I make a third more, and continuing on the salary ladder. You can transition out, you have a lot of excellent skills, if you want to make a move.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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Teachers are under attack because parents don't parent. The father is thrown under the bus. watch the sitcoms on today's television. men aren't strong. They can't beat their kids so they are feared and respected. they can't discipline a kid by showing aggression or any type of masculine behavior. no rules are set because daddy is paying child support to a woman who won't let him see his kids. no, I don't have kids nor child support but I see it. Society says it's wrong to be a male. there's also a rise in single parent households as if that's a fashionably chic thing happening in society.

I don't bother with girls but I stand aggressively against boys and teach them how to behave and what they should expect. I let them know I don't care about liking each other. the goal is to succeed. when you win, everyone goes home happy. Win on the state exams and report cards that is. Boys have no role model in society. How should they behave? What is it like to be a young man? Don't worry, facebook and youtube videos will show you how to behave and porn will teach you anything else your stupid family considers taboo (that is, if you have a family).


I am a man and a father and my children respect me without my having to "beat them".
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