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Old 03-18-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Who claimed that?

Of course not all teachers are the same.

Common sense.

Just because a teacher isnt good doesn't give students the right to be disrespectful and rain havoc in a classroom.

Not sure what your point is. Or simply you are arguing something no one is arguing.
Because throughout your posts you seem to be almost all the blame on administrators, not even considering what challenges they may be facing.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:01 PM
 
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Because throughout your posts you seem to be almost all the blame on administrators, not even considering what challenges they may be facing.
Negative.

My post assumes the teacher is or has done their part.

There are certainly teachers who lack classroom management skills, consistency and any other type of characteristic that promotes a good learning environment.

Even in my posts I have stated that the admins hands are tied just like the teachers.

The main problem is the school system. The politics involved. Accommodating and copitchulating bad kids at the expense of the teachers and the good students.

Now like with teachers there are certainly some bad admins.

But as I contend the root issue is the school system / board not allowing the schools to do what needs to be done.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Negative.

My post assumes the teacher is or has done their part.

There are certainly teachers who lack classroom management skills, consistency and any other type of characteristic that promotes a good learning environment.

Even in my posts I have stated that the admins hands are tied just like the teachers.

The main problem is the school system. The politics involved. Accommodating and copitchulating bad kids at the expense of the teachers and the good students.

Now like with teachers there are certainly some bad admins.

But as I contend the root issue is the school system / board not allowing the schools to do what needs to be done.
So since you hate your situation, why don't you leave at the end of the year. Then your problem is solved.
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:30 AM
 
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So since you hate your situation, why don't you leave at the end of the year. Then your problem is solved.
I teach in a different country. Love my situation. 1 hour 50 dollar plane ride from the beautiful beaches in Thailand.

You couldn't pay me enough to work in that type of school.

Luckily I did an ACP and my student teaching was only for a week. God forbid I had to teach in that school for any longer.
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I teach in a different country. Love my situation. 1 hour 50 dollar plane ride from the beautiful beaches in Thailand.

You couldn't pay me enough to work in that type of school.

Luckily I did an ACP and my student teaching was only for a week. God forbid I had to teach in that school for any longer.
Interesting. I lived in Thailand for a while after retirement.

Quite a while back, well into my career, I looked at teaching at one of the international schools in Thailand. I'm glad I didn't for one reason -- my retirement is quite good, but wouldn't have been had I went the IS route. Do consider that.
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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This is my first year in a non Title I school (year 20 in teaching...state number 4). I remember the day when I said that I would rather have a class of bad students that I could get buck with than the precious, overly entitled students that I have now. It works my nerve to have a classroom full of students that honestly believe that everything should go their way. I've never had so many students that just do not listen to you. They hear you, but you are ignored. They respond/answer when they are ready. Oh, this is kindergarten.

The problems are not limited to Title 1 schools. These issues are where we are now as a society. These types of classrooms are the rule and not the exception.

What can we do?? I'm leaving in August to take my career overseas. It's time to do something new.

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Old 03-19-2017, 06:22 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I teach in a different country.........................

Which, had you said this from the beginning, would have forestalled the miscommunication and rancor. Most, if not all of us, who have commented are approaching your "issues" from the perspective of US policies, experiences and educational practices.
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Old 03-19-2017, 06:31 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Again I ask, how long have you been a teacher?
And let me ask an added question -- how many different schools or school systems have you taught in?
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Not going to answer the "How long have you been teaching?" question, then?
It was answered in the OP, very first sentence:
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I had to observe and student teach at a low income school.

Was amazed at how disrespectful the students were.

Constant talking, getting up out of the seat and general class disruptions.

Never seen anything quite like it.

The teacher could barely teach as she was constantly having to deal with trouble makers and talking over students.

On one hand, it's admirable how they can do it. However, at the same token, I don't why they put up with an admin and school system that allows this kind of circus to carry on in their classrooms.

On top of it being stress from hell for the teachers, I feel sorry for the few kids in the class that actually want to learn.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Well, he has a right not to answer a personal question.
Especially if the answer works against one's credibility.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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It was answered in the OP, very first sentence:
That doesn't answer anything, though.

I could say the same thing, but also subsequently taught for years at a costly specialized private school.
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