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This is my first year in a non Title I school (year 20 in teaching...state number 4). I remember the day when I said that I would rather have a class of bad students that I could get buck with than the precious, overly entitled students that I have now. It works my nerve to have a classroom full of students that honestly believe that everything should go their way. I've never had so many students that just do not listen to you. They hear you, but you are ignored. They respond/answer when they are ready. Oh, this is kindergarten.
The problems are not limited to Title 1 schools. These issues are where we are now as a society. These types of classrooms are the rule and not the exception.
What can we do?? I'm leaving in August to take my career overseas. It's time to do something new.
I disagree, because I was teaching back in the 80's, and it was the same then. When I was a student myself, in the 70's, I remember students actually hitting teachers, walking out of the classroom, completely taking over, and so on.
Which, had you said this from the beginning, would have forestalled the miscommunication and rancor. Most, if not all of us, who have commented are approaching your "issues" from the perspective of US policies, experiences and educational practices.
This topic is based on stateside not international.
Actually, that doesn't answer that question at all.
I could relate things that occurred to me during student teaching and not mention the 33 years of working in education after student teaching.
As I read that post it seemed to me that he was saying that he observed that kind of setting when he was student teaching. I assumed that after that he went on to teach in some different type of setting.
There are schools and classes out there with severe discipline problems.
Teacher turn over rate in these type schools are high.
Just a fact.
So. And? No one has denied that. What's your point?
You don't like the discipline procedures? Neither do many, if not most, teachers. But we (now they, since I as well as a couple other respondents are retired) play with the hand they're given.
Instead of haranguing teachers about it, as you've done, you need to contact the policy makers.
So. And? No one has denied that. What's your point?
You don't like the discipline procedures? Neither do many, if not most, teachers. But we (now they, since I as well as a couple other respondents are retired) play with the hand they're given.
Instead of haranguing teachers about it, as you've done, you need to contact the policy makers.
Did you not read the OP and any of the pages?
My point is this should not be accepted it tolerated.
No way in hell I'd work in those conditions letting kids disrespect and run my class.
Reminds me of our government. Blantant corruption, money in politics, but the people accept and tolerate it.
Nonetheless the main culprits are the school board / Statehand tying the admins and teachers.
Their fault and doing. But doesn't mean educators and even parents should tolerate and accept it.
1) This is terrible for teachers and the kids that want to learn.
2) This will not change or get better so long as teachers and parents accept and tolerate it.
There are ways to force the "policy makers" hand.
I don't teach in those conditions and never would. No way I am letting kids run my classroom and degrade the learning of the few that want to learn.
Not a chance in hell that is happening to me.
Only wish other teachers would have this mind set and principles as well.
Ok, I guess I've been "scolded".
I will now tell you something which I just posted elsewhere and which one of such wide experience already knows:
Schools reflect the communities they serve.
Oh, **** in one hand and wish in the other and figure out which one fills up faster.
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