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Teachers that were around too long are overpaid. Not new teachers. Or ones out of college. But yes their unions help. Severence pay and not paying for healthcare. But that's for establish teachers.
Severance pay? School districts are about the only employers I have ever heard of that will actually take money back from teachers that quit (my wife's district had a $10k or 10%, whichever was greater, penalty for quitting after April 1st of the previous year) and will refuse to allow you to rollover your retirement accounts. Last thing they are going to do is give you money for leaving.
No it's not - at least not for most teachers across the nation. There is no severance package in any system I know. I will pay for healthcare every year until the day I die. I'll be paying for it even after retirement, although there is a partial reimbursement each year for some of what I pay monthly.
I really would love to know exactly where these systems are that have all of these wonderful benefits out there that the ill-informed public rants on and on about. Please point them out to the rest of us teachers so we know where to apply to next year.
There may be a small handful of systems that have these salaries/benefits, but they sure as Hell aren't representative of the rest of the nation.
I'd like to know too.
We pay over $420/mo. for a family plan. A retiree pays all but $100 of the monthly premium, so it gets pricey.
Our family plan is nearly $700/month to include a spouse and child.
As far as salary, I heard on ABC News Monday night that top software developers are averaging $123, 000/year. That's 2 1/2 times what I make now after teaching for 27 years. I may never make that much, but I'm willing to bet that I'll be good enough to break $100K before I can't work any longer. If I stay in teaching, I'll never even break $50K in my district.
there is no severance package in public school teaching. this is not merrill lynch or morgan stanley giving a banker a few hundred thousand or a CEO a few million to show him out the door.
lets say they start at 30k but they only work 180 days thats half the year so really teachers start off making 60k. Experienced teachers make 50k thats six figures. Am I missing something?
Teachers do not get paid for working summers. They are typically paid a salary of 9 months stretched out over a period of 12 months. Also most of us take an unpaid maternity leave, unless you have enough sick days to use. Usually the most senior teachers have that amount saved and not the new teachers. Typically the new teachers are the ones having babies if you think about it.
That being said, there are some districts that make more money than others. For example, Mt Lebanon starts at 45k. That is the minority and not the majority. Fort Cherry starts at 27K last I checked. It takes YEARS to make really good pay in most districts. The norm is not Mt Lebanon or Upper St Clair. My point is that it is unfair to lump everyone in the same category and the majority of the teachers certainly do not make 6 figures.
It is a myth that all teachers have union protection, as well.
If your principal wants you gone, you will be gone. The only protected teachers are the ones with principals who are too lazy to do the leg work to get rid of them.
lets say they start at 30k but they only work 180 days thats half the year so really teachers start off making 60k. Experienced teachers make 50k thats six figures. Am I missing something?
How do you figure that 180 days is half a work year? Please list the professions where it's the norm to work 360 days per year. When I was an engineer, my work year was 215 days because I had Saturdays and Sundays off, six weeks vacation and 16 holidays off per year. I don't know anyone who works 360 days per year. My dh works a lot and he only works about 240 days per year. Please enlighten us as to how you figure 180 days is half a year worked. I do know people who work more days than dh but they are paid well into six figures for doing so by the time overtime is factored in.
If you count days, I work 90% of the number of days I worked as an engineer. If you count hours, I work 120% of the hours I worked as an engineer. Please enlighten me as to how this comes out to be half a year worked....but I'll gladly take 90% of the salary I had as an engineer. Then I would be making good money.
And what you are missing is that teacher makes $30K not $60K. Money does not materialize in our checking accounts because our work year has fewer days than yours. FTR. do YOU work 360 days per year?
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If your principal wants you gone, you will be gone. The only protected teachers are the ones with principals who are too lazy to do the leg work to get rid of them.
How do you figure that 180 days is half a work year? Please list the professions where it's the norm to work 360 days per year. When I was an engineer, my work year was 215 days because I had Saturdays and Sundays off, six weeks vacation and 16 holidays off per year. I don't know anyone who works 360 days per year. My dh works a lot and he only works about 240 days per year. Please enlighten us as to how you figure 180 days is half a year worked. I do know people who work more days than dh but they are paid well into six figures for doing so by the time overtime is factored in.
