Atty General Paxton, SCOTUS, Lib Democrats (atheist, gay, place)

[sxrckr]

Send the Feds in ... Right after they're sent in to take care of all of the city and state officials who have been blatantly ignoring the laws of the land for much longer by having a sanctuary state/cities.
We'll wait.

[LeagleEagleDFW]

Originally Posted by Texan1010

I don't think you understand the Christian religion. No offense, but your statement is a prime example of that.

I fully understand the Christian religion. I'm lumping all religions under one umbrella of believing in some random deity in some inaccessible location for the purposes of making it easier to convey a point on an Internet message board.

[LeagleEagleDFW]

Originally Posted by Texan1010

Please do me the favor of pointing out your references in scriptures, and make sure they are the most updated ones in terms of the order in which they occur in the bible. One flaw I've found in people who tend to use your logic in trying to show contradictions in the bible is that no one pays attention to the order in which things occur, nor do they seem to understand the context surrounding a scripture.

It would be similar to someone pulling up a law from the past that said "blank is illegal" and fast forward to now and same thing is now legal. Then this person tries to use the past to justify the present which doesn't make any sense.

You aren't taking time into account and later into the scriptures many things that weren't allowed are allowed.

Tip: Don't try to debate against something you 1) Don't know about 2) Are not fluent in or at least understand the basics 3) Have gained from another person/source that does 1) and/or 2)

How do you know when scriptures were written? The current Christian bible is a heavily edited conglomeration of passages written thousands of years ago that was carefully selected by various churches at some point to illustrate what they best thought it should be.

You don't get to cherry pick what works for you and what doesn't. If you're trying to justify hatred and discrimination because of something some people wrote thousands of years ago, you're going to have to take what works for you as well as what doesn't.

But, to be helpful:

[philopower]

Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW

How do you know when scriptures were written? The current Christian bible is a heavily edited conglomeration of passages written thousands of years ago that was carefully selected by various churches at some point to illustrate what they best thought it should be.

You don't get to cherry pick what works for you and what doesn't. If you're trying to justify hatred and discrimination because of something some people wrote thousands of years ago, you're going to have to take what works for you as well as what doesn't.

But, to be helpful:

[philopower]

Originally Posted by K-Train

There has been no prove thus far, that people have a "Gay" gene.

Gay's already had Civil Unions, why else would they need to have a Marriage? In what other ways are Homosexuals denied rights?

This post makes me want to throw up. Do you really think gay people would willingly choose a life of alienation and oppression? Sure we have gay marriage now, but do you realize how much harder life is being gay? If I had the opportunity to change my feelings and live a normal life, I'd take it in a second. Unfortunately, I can't, and believe me I've tried many times to be with a woman. A gay gene may not exist, but being gay does and it doesn't come with a choice.

[LeagleEagleDFW]

I have met or known many gay people (I used to work retail in the "gay area" of town) and not a single one felt it was a choice. When they started to be of a romantically inclined age, they simply were attracted to members of their own sex. Same way I just liked girls, they just liked boys or girls (as applicable).

Originally Posted by philopower

This post makes me want to throw up. Do you really think gay people would willingly choose a life of alienation and oppression? Sure we have gay marriage now, but do you realize how much harder life is being gay? If I had the opportunity to change my feelings and live a normal life, I'd take it in a second. Unfortunately, I can't, and believe me I've tried many times to be with a woman. A gay gene may not exist, but being gay does and it doesn't come with a choice.

I'm just going to throw out there that there is nothing "abnormal" about being gay.

[K-Train]

Originally Posted by know_one

I don't like so called "sane adults" believing in fairly tales and running our country. If a man is on the street preaching you would look at them like they are nuts. But package it neatly, it is the greatest thing ever.

Thats funny, since I'm sure most of the constitution that was written along with most of the Presidents do believe in what you call a "Fairy tale" (We call him God)

[K-Train]

Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW

I have met or known many gay people (I used to work retail in the "gay area" of town) and not a single one felt it was a choice.

So basing a "feeling" over something that is a Fact, is what we should say is the ultimate in a decision.

So if I "feel" like Cheating on my girlfriend is right, does that make it the right decision? or do I have a choice to what to do if I'm with a different woman?

[K-Train]

Originally Posted by philopower

This post makes me want to throw up. Do you really think gay people would willingly choose a life of alienation and oppression? Sure we have gay marriage now, but do you realize how much harder life is being gay? If I had the opportunity to change my feelings and live a normal life, I'd take it in a second. Unfortunately, I can't, and believe me I've tried many times to be with a woman. A gay gene may not exist, but being gay does and it doesn't come with a choice.

It all boils down to choice, you can always have feelings. But it always up to you and conscience to make a Choice.

If you have a co-worker at your job, and you just have such an urge to go ahead and slap him in the face, do you have a Choice to act on that urge or do you not?

[Texan1010]

Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW

How do you know when scriptures were written?

I don't, but neither do you.

The current Christian bible is a heavily edited conglomeration of passages written thousands of years ago that was carefully selected by various churches at some point to illustrate what they best thought it should be.

Nice try, although it is true the original biblical text was never recovered, many replicas were found scattered throughout and all contained the scriptures in an extremely uniformed fashion. I would agree that the translation did skew some of the words because the Hebrew language contained approximately 8,000- 10,000 words while the English language contains over 1 million words.

You don't get to cherry pick what works for you and what doesn't.

I'm not cherry picking? I asked for you to show me the most updated biblical scriptures in the bible to prove your stance, all you did was avoid the question all together. Again things in the bible that were once not permitted or occurred differently at the start changed throughout both the old and new testaments.

If you're trying to justify hatred and discrimination because of something some people wrote thousands of years ago, you're going to have to take what works for you as well as what doesn't.

Did you not read my previous comments? Same-sex "marriage" should be allowed if it's under the law and not forcefully done under a church. I have no problem and I don't judge. Did you not see my whole commentary I wrote right after you liked my first post?

But, to be helpful:

*Facepalm*

I guess the time in which an event occurs is extremely irrelevant to you, right? Please educate yourself on a belief system. I've met athiests who are more knowledgeable than you in a belief system and they never do what you do. By the way you're speaking to someone who used to be an athiests then changed towards agnosticism, theism, and I'm currently this.

The point I'm taking from you is that time is irrelevant, since you seem to not give any importance to what occurs in what place in the bible, and you literally did what I asked you not to do you disregard the context in which "slavery" which the bible describes as servants is used.

It's funny observing ill informed individuals who believe they know everything about a belief without knowing nothing, and taking everything out of context, and ignoring time all together.

This is extremely cringe worthy.