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Old 04-01-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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Just bumping this up because of some new developments on carding. Desmond Cole is really a wonderful journalist and really pushes the issues that are important to the community. Here is a recent article from Vice magazine.

The Massive Police Database of Information on Black Torontonians Should Be Destroyed | VICE | Canada
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:45 AM
 
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wow, that's pretty disturbing.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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Just bumping this up because of some new developments on carding. Desmond Cole is really a wonderful journalist and really pushes the issues that are important to the community. Here is a recent article from Vice magazine.

The Massive Police Database of Information on Black Torontonians Should Be Destroyed | VICE | Canada
Looked up Desmond Cole. Surprised to see how young a guy he appears to be. Nice to see young people working to shake things up.
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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Looked up Desmond Cole. Surprised to see how young a guy he appears to be. Nice to see young people working to shake things up.
Agreed, he is a breath of fresh air.

All I know is just like him, I want my contact cards erased from that database.
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Old 04-03-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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Just bumping this up because of some new developments on carding. Desmond Cole is really a wonderful journalist and really pushes the issues that are important to the community. Here is a recent article from Vice magazine.

The Massive Police Database of Information on Black Torontonians Should Be Destroyed | VICE | Canada
+1000

I've been a fan of Desmond Cole since he first ran for city council against Adam Vaughan in 2006 in Trinity-Spadina (I had a lot of good choices that year!) I also tune in to his radio show when I can.

We're very, very likely to get a Black police chief to succeed the outgoing Bill Blair, who was a "reformer" compared to McCormick and Fantino, but really disgraced himself on this file (and the G20 too).
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Old 04-05-2015, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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We're very, very likely to get a Black police chief to succeed the outgoing Bill Blair
Officer Bubbles?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc

He has a G20 connection too lol..
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:07 PM
 
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Peter Sloly and Mark Saunders are both in the running.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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Just bumping this up because of some new developments on carding. Desmond Cole is really a wonderful journalist and really pushes the issues that are important to the community. Here is a recent article from Vice magazine.

The Massive Police Database of Information on Black Torontonians Should Be Destroyed | VICE | Canada
I read this article and while it does suck that blacks do get 'carded' often and at a higher rate, the other two-thirds of the people being carded are non-black even though they don't commit even a fraction of the crime that blacks do in the GTA.

Also I disagree with this part of his article:

This is the polite, sophisticated racism that strangles the spirits of black Torontonians. We are asked to accept a world where police classify us not as criminals, but as people who must be monitored in the name of public safety, as if there is a difference. We are asked to give up our legal rights and human dignity to make those around us feel more comfortable.

It makes it sound like the police are out to get blacks and to watch over them for no apparent reason when in fact everyone knows that its because the crime and murder rate is so much higher among blacks compared to non-blacks in the city. Just look at the number of blacks in the past few weeks in Toronto that have been murdered or wounded by gunfire or other violence and come back and tell me that blacks don't need more policing to keep black crime in check? How many non-blacks have been murdered in that same timeframe? None that I can recall.

So what do blacks really want these days I'm not even sure anymore because they keep changing their minds. On the one hand they want the crime and murder among them to stop or at least be drastically reduced, yet when police try to do their job and stop crime, blacks come out and get angry that cops keep profiling them. So which is it then? Do blacks want real change or not?
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:16 AM
 
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Is there any evidence that carding is making us safer? I highly doubt that.. There are other communities in Canada with large black populations are they more violent or crime ridden than those in Toronto.. I highly doubt that so essentially the practice is extremely divisive, isn't proven to be doing anything to make our city safer and is a good example I think of the Police overextending their mandate and impeding on rights of citizens. I'm astonished this practice hasn't been completely shot down yet.... Looks totally ripe for a Supreme court level lawsuit..
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:17 AM
 
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Peter Sloly and Mark Saunders are both in the running.
My money is on Peter Sloly.
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