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Old 08-12-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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You don't even have to be Christian to know she's wrong.

And what exactly is she wrong about?
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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I don't know why, but I decided to watch two episodes of this show this week. I haven't really watched the Bachelor/Bachelorette since it first came on like 20 years ago. What a difference from the women then compared to now. The men look better now though. Lucky for Hannah, her final 4 were all good looking, and Peter and Tyler appeared to have been good guys on the inside as well, but who knows, they all could've just been faking.

On to Hannah...I couldn't believe the amount of applause she got for what she said again to Luke at the After the Final Rose. I couldn't believe she used grace as an excuse to keep committing sins, and I was so annoyed when she kept pointing fingers to everyone that we all sin. Yes, we all do commit sins, but that doesn't give you a pass to keep committing them. Besides, she was pointing fingers at everyone just to make herself feel better.

Oh, now I remember why I decided to watch this show again. Hannah was actually brought up at our church for WHAT NOT TO DO on the subject of sexual immortality, particularly her line of "Jesus still loves me." Our pastor explained, "She's right. Jesus will still love her, but God said, "If you love me, obey my commandments."

You don't even have to be Christian to know she's wrong. And I know Luke should've accepted the rejection sooner than later, but he had every right to know if she slept with others. That was the woman he was going to propose to! It was a very important value to him. With his values, her sleeping with other guys changes everything, and honestly, he should've kept his words. He shouldn't have lowered his standards and wanted her the second she admitted that she did sleep with others. He should've stood by his words and walked away. Unfortunately, what he did made it worse.

I did not watch the other episodes so I don't know the history of Luke and why everyone hates him, but these are just my opinions based on those two episodes I saw.

This show just shows what's wrong with today's morals and values. And excuse me while I "slu*t shame" Hannah, but she definitely was being a hoe. At least keep it to yourself. Men or women.
Certainly you are entitled to your opinion and I am not about to try to tell you that your opinions are wrong. They are yours and you are entitled to them. I do have to disagree with the bolded though. If it was so important to Luke that she not sleep with anyone during the show then that is a conversation he needed to have with her in the beginning and explain to her that based on his interpretation of faith it wouldnt work for him. That said, he knew what show he signed up for and if he didnt know sex happens in the fantasy suite then he was just being naive. I do agree with you that all he did was make everything worse.


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Agreed, 100%. ABC gave Luke a villain edit precisely because he’s a Christian. It’s hardly the first time the mainstream media has been accused of deliberately misrepresenting conservative Christian values.

Wake up, America. Don't fall for the Hollywood lies. Just 10 years ago it would have been normal for a guy to say "I don't want to marry a girl who is sleeping with other guys". Now suddenly saying that makes you a villian, sex-negative, sluut-shaming, etc. All recent buzzwords from the last 5-10 years. This isn't the norm, it just a feminist takeover of American women's values. And ABC / Disney (wholesome family network?) is leading the charge. Very sad.

Most real, quality men love women who stand up to this nonsense, btw, and there are more and more everyday, which is great!
That bolded part is factually incorrect. They have had countless people on the show who are deep in their faith and they dont get the villain edit. He got it because he was the villain. He was overly aggressive on the rugby field for no reason other than trying to be the alpha make at a time where the guys were having a fun game. He lied to Hannah about what was told to him when he was asked (I cant remember who asked him) to set the story straight with her. Every time he was called out on his BS he tried to gaslight her by saying that she didnt understand what he meant and then started backtracking.

The rest isnt worth addressing
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Old 08-12-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Pilot Pete just seems a bit milquetoast to be the next bachelor.


Mike would be my choice, de-facto at this point because if not him then who ? John Paul Jones ? Grocer Joe ?
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Old 08-12-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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Pilot Pete just seems a bit milquetoast to be the next bachelor.


Mike would be my choice, de-facto at this point because if not him then who ? John Paul Jones ? Grocer Joe ?
I think for as cool as JPJ seems there might not be enough depth to him do to it.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...nnah-brown-sex

This is actually LUKE Parker in his own words and I have watch the full video and I’m glad to hear him in his own words.

On the show he came across as narcissistic young man but in this video he comes across as nice guy.

Who the real LUKE P is we may never find out and perhaps somewhere in the middle.

I do believe that editing is a major factor in this show and I also believe the show can make or break a person. Anyway, whatever he may be, I’m glad to see he has a lot of good friends and family that support him.

On Paradise we got to see some that stayed just as nice but also some that were opposite of how I thought of them during the Bachelor or Bachelorette show. Therefore I will give Luke P the benefit of the doubt as Hannah Brown wasn’t the “angel” she wanted to let us believe and Jen turned out to be a complete fake!
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