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Old 10-12-2019, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Facts are facts even if you don't like them. TCM doesn't even crack the top 100 networks by viewership; it has fewer viewers than even Comedy.TV. It has remarkably low viewership.



What does this have to do with whether the network has "low viewership"? (Answer: Nothing. This is some very strange cognitive dissonance on your part.)
I don't have any "cognitive dissonance" on any part, thanks very much.
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Old 10-12-2019, 10:41 PM
 
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So I tuned into TCM today on Comcast and saw this: Turner Classic Movies requires a subscription.

Comcast has moved TCM to their “Sports and Entertainment” Package and now charges you an extra $9.95 a month to watch TCM.

Greedy Bastards.
I believe this is a maneuver to get more people to pay for the sports package(s). Sports rights fees are so expensive that the media companies need to get non-sports fans to help subsidize the sports programming. Remaining cable subscribers will probably see more of these types of changes as more people cut the cord.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:37 AM
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Location: Florida
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Take or leave it?
That's how the mass market is: Providers and suppliers decide what to sell, and the public decides whether or not to buy it.

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Thank you Comcast Corporate for posting your inane analysis.
Just because you're frustrated that the world isn't arraying itself to meet your personal preferences doesn't give you a license to act like a child. The analysis is sound - it just underscores something you're unhappy about.

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I don't have any "cognitive dissonance" on any part, thanks very much.
The fact that you're railing against a correction of the claim that TCM doesn't have low viewership in light of the fact that it doesn't even register in the top 100 networks says different.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:44 AM
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Location: Florida
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Remaining cable subscribers will probably see more of these types of changes as more people cut the cord.
We're beginning to see the production houses starting to pull their content back under their control (rather than dumping it all into Netflix). That's already leading to the reconstitution of cable packages within streaming services. In the end, the only effective change will be the elimination of independent networks and the reconsolidation of video entertainment under a small handful of companies.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I disagree that TCM has low viewership. How many other channels have their own annual Hollywood festival, cruise, wines, tour packages, etc? TCM is a real community for those of us who love old, vintage, and classic movies. I'm glad I don't have to pay extra for it with my FIOS subscription, but I would if I had to.
I prefer watching an old movie on TCM over some new release on HBO every weekend. I rarely see anything new worth watching. I wish that Verizon FIOS would offer it in HD.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It's still free on ATT Uverse, but Turner Classic Movies is run by Warner Brothers Entertainment, a subsidiary of AT&T's WarnerMedia.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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I believe this is a maneuver to get more people to pay for the sports package(s). Sports rights fees are so expensive that the media companies need to get non-sports fans to help subsidize the sports programming. Remaining cable subscribers will probably see more of these types of changes as more people cut the cord.
Thanks for your comment. It is a volatile time in the media industry. So it seems crazy that Comcast would antagonize their remaining cable subscribers with their seemingly arbitrary changes in programming. I guess maintaining customer loyalty means nothing these days.

There are a lot of options for cable/satellite/streaming vendors out there and this move by Comcast adds one more reason to be flexible in who we get our entertainment fix from.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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We're beginning to see the production houses starting to pull their content back under their control (rather than dumping it all into Netflix). That's already leading to the reconstitution of cable packages within streaming services. In the end, the only effective change will be the elimination of independent networks and the reconsolidation of video entertainment under a small handful of companies.
What you describe above is true for the TV industry as a whole however in my opinion is does not explain the specific occurrence of Comcast moving TCM into a sports tier. It makes no sense beyond forcing more people to pay for sports programming who otherwise would not pay for it. TCM and sports have nothing to do with each other.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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Thanks for your comment. It is a volatile time in the media industry. So it seems crazy that Comcast would antagonize their remaining cable subscribers with their seemingly arbitrary changes in programming. I guess maintaining customer loyalty means nothing these days.

There are a lot of options for cable/satellite/streaming vendors out there and this move by Comcast adds one more reason to be flexible in who we get our entertainment fix from.
Comcast probably assumes that a certain percentage of their cable TV customer base will not change their habits drastically enough to cut the cord and will put up with almost anything Comcast chooses to do.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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We found out about this just this weekend, and it is a bummer. We usually watch the Film Noir offering on Saturday nights. We are both irritated and outraged but unless we cut the cord and subscribe to other provider, we are stuck. We don’t have internet on the second TV so our options are limited to another cable company. We don’t need the sports channels on this tier.

In fact, We aren’t interested in most of the channels we now have. But we do enjoy TCM.
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