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Old 05-29-2008, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Wales, UK
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I know, my spelling is rubbish!
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:16 AM
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Location: Lincoln, UK
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If you want to be pedantic, it's anglicise; though I suspect the OED would list the -ize and -ise endings as equally acceptable.
Yes I do want to be pedantic, I enjoy it. But I was resisting.

If we're properly Anglicising then we'll have none of those silly Zs thank you very much.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Western Mass.
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Yes I do want to be pedantic, I enjoy it. But I was resisting.

If we're properly Anglicising then we'll have none of those silly Zs thank you very much.
Yes - it just helps them cheat at Scrabble!
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:45 AM
 
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Yes I do want to be pedantic, I enjoy it. But I was resisting.

If we're properly Anglicising then we'll have none of those silly Zs thank you very much.
I think Oxford English Dictionary and other British academic publications may beg to differ. Unfortunately, OED online is no longer free to use (it used to be). For an interesting take on correct usage click here.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:06 AM
 
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Too many generalizations here - there are different accents throughout the UK and diffferent pronounciations. Scots of course pronounce all of those words differently, and don't add an "r" sound at the end. We just swallow the consonants and roll our r's.

My pet peeve is American pronounciations of Scottish place names.
Edinburgh - "Edinburra" not "Edinburg"
Glasgow - "Glas-go" NOT Glaz-gow"
Loch Ness - is not "Lack Ness" you have to make a clearing the throat sound.
And of course it is "Scot-land" not "Scatland" and we are "Scots" not the "Scotch".
Scotch is just Whisky.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:59 PM
 
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Too many generalizations here - there are different accents throughout the UK and diffferent pronounciations. Scots of course pronounce all of those words differently, and don't add an "r" sound at the end. We just swallow the consonants and roll our r's.

My pet peeve is American pronounciations of Scottish place names.
Edinburgh - "Edinburra" not "Edinburg"
Glasgow - "Glas-go" NOT Glaz-gow"
Loch Ness - is not "Lack Ness" you have to make a clearing the throat sound.
And of course it is "Scot-land" not "Scatland" and we are "Scots" not the "Scotch".
Scotch is just Whisky.
This just reminded me of something that I've always been curious about. Why are residents of Galsgow known as Glaswegians and not Glasgowians? The city isn't called Glaswege. Same goes for residents of Halifax, Canada. For some reason they go by Haligonians not Halifaxians. These are the only two cities that I can think of off the top of my head that have these unique endings for residents of their respective cities.
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:06 AM
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Location: Lincoln, UK
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This just reminded me of something that I've always been curious about. Why are residents of Galsgow known as Glaswegians and not Glasgowians? The city isn't called Glaswege. Same goes for residents of Halifax, Canada. For some reason they go by Haligonians not Halifaxians. These are the only two cities that I can think of off the top of my head that have these unique endings for residents of their respective cities.
There are plenty here, although many are colloquial. A couple that come to mind are:

Liverpool - Liverpudlians or scousers (colloq.)
Newcastle - Geordies (colloq.)
Birmingham - Brummies (colloq.)
Manchester - Mancunians...

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Old 05-30-2008, 04:08 AM
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Location: Lincoln, UK
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Yes - it just helps them cheat at Scrabble!
LOL - didn't think of that!
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:17 AM
 
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There are plenty here, although many are colloquial. A couple that come to mind are:

Liverpool - Liverpudlians or scousers (colloq.)
Newcastle - Geordies (colloq.)
Birmingham - Brummies (colloq.)
Manchester - Mancunians...

Yeah, but how did the non colloquial ones come about? Residents of London aren't referred to as Londrakians. Where did Glaswegian, Haligonian and Liverpudian come from? Mancunian? Are you kidding or is that for real? I've never heard of that one, that's crazy. This is very interesting to me. Thanks
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:47 AM
 
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Too many generalizations here - there are different accents throughout the UK and diffferent pronounciations. Scots of course pronounce all of those words differently, and don't add an "r" sound at the end. We just swallow the consonants and roll our r's.

My pet peeve is American pronounciations of Scottish place names.
Edinburgh - "Edinburra" not "Edinburg"
Glasgow - "Glas-go" NOT Glaz-gow"
Loch Ness - is not "Lack Ness" you have to make a clearing the throat sound.
And of course it is "Scot-land" not "Scatland" and we are "Scots" not the "Scotch".
Scotch is just Whisky.

Those are pretty junior league place names.

How about Arrochar? Now, I know in my head exactly how it's supposed to sound, but my Yankee tongue can't even get close to it. When my wife wants to embarrass me, she asks me to say "Arrochar" in public. Also not sure how to type it phonetically here.

Then there's Milngavie. I can say that pretty well. Something like "Mull-guy;" but the "l" sound is barely perceptible.

Another is Kilconquhar. Actually, I think many Scots (if they're not from Fife) haven't got a clue how to say that one, and may have never heard of it. It's said something like "Ka-nuch-er." (The "ch" sound having a slight throat clearing sound).

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