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Not quite "off with your head" anymore but try to set up a real protest during the Queen's walkabout and see whether the police lets you with placards and other things....
I thought it was funny when the Queen came to Oxford a few years back , they had to pay the county council workers to turn up ( ie you got the time off if you went to cheer - Hubby worked there at the time and took the offered afternoon off to go and do something productive instead, which of course was not supposed to happen, Republicans were supposed to subsidise their sold out brothers/sisters and stay at work) and support Her Maj.
What a really ingenious way to drum support... And this little PR exercise of the Queen's visit cost the council ( bear in mind savage cuts are happening everywhere, including policemen, nurses, teachers, etc... as well as library and youth centres closures etc...) millions in security costs, workers bribed to go and cheer ,road closures etc... Yep the cost to us is soooooooooooooooooo minimal.
Hubby now works on the largest Air Base in the UK and royal visits happen all the time, once again costs to the taxpayers is enormous.
But heck we always have money for the fripperies of monarchy but policemen, soldiers and teachers can go and jump off a very high cliff because their "huge" salaries ( according to our multi-millionaire Prime Minister and his cronies - anyone earning over £21,000 is apparently rolling in it and exploiting the Nation ) have made this country bankrupt....
Not the Banksters who robbed us blind, not the tax evading bastards who are bleeding this country dry. Nope Librarians are far more of a threat to this country's financial future...
Prince William takes a Chinook to pick up his brother and go to a stag do and RAF condones it as "training". Mmmmmmmmm...
I wonder how many pilots would be allowed the personal use of a Chinook to go and see a stripper at a mate's house ?!?! Those costs are NEVER added up to the overall costs of having a royal family. Ever. Apart from the principle that in an actual modern democracy there should at least be a semblance of equitable treatment of all human beings. That being a prince does not authorise you to behave like a millionaire playboy at the expense of the tax payers.
Do you really think it's any different with the President of the United States? You are aware that a large majority of those "cheering crowds" are bussed in union workers and the party faithful right?
I almost wish you guys could have a republic for just 1 year just so you could see that it will cost even more money, and will be no more democratic, and will be filled with idiotic career politicians that make the Royal Family look frugal in comparison.
Do you really think it's any different with the President of the United States? You are aware that a large majority of those "cheering crowds" are bussed in union workers and the party faithful right?
I almost wish you guys could have a republic for just 1 year just so you could see that it will cost even more money, and will be no more democratic, and will be filled with idiotic career politicians that make the Royal Family look frugal in comparison.
...What a really ingenious way to drum support... And this little PR exercise of the Queen's visit cost the council ( bear in mind savage cuts are happening everywhere, including policemen, nurses, teachers, etc... as well as library and youth centres closures etc...) millions in security costs, workers bribed to go and cheer ,road closures etc... Yep the cost to us is soooooooooooooooooo minimal.
When tourists go to Laahnun, rent high-priced hotel rooms, pay 'Treasure Island' prices in hotels and stand around outside Buck House to watch the 'Changing of the Guard' what percentage of the take does the Queen get? How much is she paid for 'The Royal Performance'?
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Hubby now works on the largest Air Base in the UK and royal visits happen all the time, once again costs to the taxpayers is enormous.
If neither the Queen nor any member of the Royal Family flew through Brize, how much difference would that make to the annual running cost?
Would it be as much as one tenth of one percent?
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Originally Posted by Mooseketeer
...I wonder how many pilots would be allowed the personal use of a Chinook to go and see a stripper at a mate's house ?!?! Those costs are NEVER added up to the overall costs of having a royal family. Ever. Apart from the principle that in an actual modern democracy there should at least be a semblance of equitable treatment of all human beings. That being a prince does not authorise you to behave like a millionaire playboy at the expense of the tax payers.
Funny old thing. I'm not a prince, I can't fly helicopters ... but I don't remember getting a bill for the aircraft I used to fly to Hawaii for a long weekend in the sun. (It took two weeks to go there and back and I had a bloody good time, too.)
Do you really think it's any different with the President of the United States? You are aware that a large majority of those "cheering crowds" are bussed in union workers and the party faithful right?
I almost wish you guys could have a republic for just 1 year just so you could see that it will cost even more money, and will be no more democratic, and will be filled with idiotic career politicians that make the Royal Family look frugal in comparison.
I hate to make such a simple point but the Queen is NOT the low cost equivalent of the president. We have an unelected head of state that sits above the equivalent - how would you fancy that??
Your democracy may not work is intended but Obama was elected nonetheless, the Queen was not.. That's not acceptable.
I hate to make such a simple point but the Queen is NOT the low cost equivalent of the president. We have an unelected head of state that sits above the equivalent - how would you fancy that??
Your democracy may not work is intended but Obama was elected nonetheless, the Queen was not.. That's not acceptable.
None so deaf as those who do not want to hear though.
I am astonished that anyone in the 21st century would consider a Monarchy a superior system. The mind quite frankly boggles.
I have a profound aversion to David Cameron but at least he was elected. In a manner of speaking anyway ( though with that I also take issue - when over 60% of the electorate vote against you and you still end up Prime Minister , something also needs reform. What happened to PR the "non negotiable" part of Clegg's deal with the Tories... ).
A modern Democracy cannot exist in a framework of an inherited system of governance. Period. Monarchy makes a mockery of the word "democracy".
My final post on the topic , quite frankly life is too short to waste my breath.
I hate to make such a simple point but the Queen is NOT the low cost equivalent of the president. We have an unelected head of state that sits above the equivalent - how would you fancy that??
Your democracy may not work is intended but Obama was elected nonetheless, the Queen was not.. That's not acceptable.
Id love it. Anyone but a career politician sounds fine to me.
An the same family running things is awesome how ?
The monarch has very limited political powers. His/her role is to act as the symbol of the nation above politics.
Go to Google and type in "difference between head of state and head of government" and you might learn something about why our (the American) system is seriously flawed.
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