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I am looking to relocate to CA with my husband, who's in the music biz and my two small kids. My husband and I both work from home, but he will have to go to LA every now and then (maybe a couple times a month?) but always late at night.
LA county is out of our price range, and I think I'd prefer to be a bit away from the congestion of the city. I've been reading through the boards and it seems that VC, and specifically, Ventura might be the place for us, but I have a few questions.
Is it what you'd consider a walkable town? We have NOTHING in walking distance from where we live now and would love to be able to walk or bike to local shops or restaurants.
How are the schools? I have one in 2nd grade and another starting kindergarten in a couple years.
I'm not sure how to phrase this into a question, but where we live now (Baltimore) is VERY judgmental, conservative, and for lack of a better term, is a town of haters! One of the things I love about places in LA / Cali that I've been is that people seem to feel comfortable being / doing what they want. It seems more liberal and accepting. Is this the case in Ventura, or VC as a whole? I like that people can be and are whatever kind of weirdo they want to be and no one seems to care
Of course we'd prefer to be near the beach, but as we're currently 3 hours from it now, TO is not inland in my book
Speaking of TO, that was another place on my list, with Simi Valley, and Newberry Park, but it seems like there's really no walkability in those areas.
Basically I want to be somewhere with a lot to do outdoors, be able to walk to at least a few places, and would love it to be in a artsy, liberal atmosphere within 30 min to the beach.
Sorry this was such a ramble, and TIA for any advice.
05-30-2011, 06:40 PM
Location: Florida
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Sounds like a match
Hi it definitely sounds like VC is the perfect fit for you and your family. It has everything you describe you want in a place.
05-30-2011, 08:23 PM
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Baltimore to Ventura? You will think you've died and gone to heaven.
Not all of LA County is expensive (Palmdale).
What are you looking for as far as housing?
Buy or rent? Budget?
Most but not all of Ventura's schools look pretty good:
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05-30-2011, 08:26 PM
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Is it what you'd consider a walkable town? We have NOTHING in walking distance from where we live now and would love to be able to walk or bike to local shops or restaurants.
No, its not a walkable town. Ventura is a suburban community, though there is a small "downtown" but most housing isn't walkable to it.
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How are the schools? I have one in 2nd grade and another starting kindergarten in a couple years.
Hit and miss and this criteria is going to conflict with your first, namely, the areas that are most "walkable" don't have good schools.
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One of the things I love about places in LA / Cali that I've been is that people seem to feel comfortable being / doing what they want. It seems more liberal and accepting.
Ventura County is not liberal, if you exclude the Hispanic vote the county would be solidly red. Ironically, the demographic (Hispanic) that shifts the county away from bright red is more socially conservative than the elements that make it red. Simi Valley is the most conservative city in Ventura County.
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Speaking of TO, that was another place on my list, with Simi Valley, and Newberry Park, but it seems like there's really no walkability in those areas.
Newbury Park is part of Thousand Oaks, and yes, both of those places are lacking in terms of walkability. But like Ventura both of these cities have areas that are more walkable than others, but again like Ventura the areas with good schools aren't walkable.
Anyhow, I don't think you're going to match all your criteria and I wouldn't rule out Los Angeles County, you're going to find far more walkable communities there than in Ventura County and some of them do have decent schools.
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Many neighborhoods in Midtown Ventura are quite walkable. We live in this area and walk to school, church, YMCA, grocery store (Trader Joe's), some neighborhood cafes and Target. For everything else (including the beach and downtown Ventura), we bike. The water is a short jaunt away (1.5 miles).
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05-30-2011, 10:48 PM
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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As a general rule, just about every town has walkable communities (to varying degrees) they just need to foot with your other priorities.
Yeah, if you buy a house near a strip-mall you can pretend as if your suburban home is in a walkable city.
As a whole Ventura, like other suburban cities, isn't walkable.
05-30-2011, 10:50 PM
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Thanks for all the good info!
[quote=Charles;19376484]Baltimore to Ventura? You will think you've died and gone to heaven.
Not all of LA County is expensive (Palmdale).
What are you looking for as far as housing?
Buy or rent? Budget?
Most but not all of Ventura's schools look pretty good:
Yes, Heaven. I grew up in maryland, in a pretty nice area, Ellicott City (which has been named Money Mag. best place to live) but I currently live in Balt. county and while I wouldn't call it hell, SOCAL is definitely heaven to me in comparison. I will check out Palmdale. Is that the only non-crazy expensive area you recommend in LA?
We are looking to rent first to be sure where we want to be. As far as budget, looking to spend no more than 2500 for rent and then when we by, hopefully in the low to mid 400K's
faithhope7, we are opposite of whitewashed here in NW Balt. County, but like you, I enjoy diversity. We are a mixed race family and prefer our surroundings to come in all colors
Opensky, what you describe is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't intend to give up my car, I'd just like to have the option to walk SOMEWHERE if I want. I think I saw midtown ventura recommended on another thread. What do you think is the price range (rent and buy)for that area for a modest 4 bdrm SFH?
05-31-2011, 07:55 AM
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4br rent should be $2200-$2750, depending on location and condition.
05-31-2011, 08:54 AM
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re: Palmdale
Just so you know, Palmdale is desert. I can't comment on the physical walkability but during the summer you won't WANT to walk anywhere.
05-31-2011, 09:02 AM
Location: Dalton Gardens
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I wouldn't call Palmdale walkable, either, and personally I find it to be kind of dumpy, especially with all the meth labs in that area. At one time it was a nice, inexpensive option for families, but now...avoid it!
Simi Valley is where I grew up and currently live. I returned here after living out of state for 9 years and then in the UK for 8 years. One really nice aspect of Simi Valley, when compared with cities and towns in Los Angeles...I can drive from one end of the valley to the other much quicker than I could drive two blocks in the San Fernando Valley. The traffic and the atmosphere in Los Angeles county is very unpleasant.
If you enjoy the outdoors one thing you will find throughout Ventura County are plenty of hiking trails, from very easy to expert level. I hike three times a week, anywhere from 2 to 5 miles at a time, and I have not yet run out of new hiking trails in Simi Valley/Santa Susana. Check out my photos in our Photos section in this forum
The Coneho Valley is also a nice area for local hikes when you want to stay closer to home. Another option to check out would be Moorpark, or, as someone else suggested, Ojai, which has a real artsy community.
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People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Sounds like a match
The Coneho Valley is also a nice area for local hikes when you want to stay closer to home. Another option to check out would be Moorpark, or, as someone else suggested, Ojai, which has a real artsy community.
