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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
Virginia Beach, VA 17 60.71%
Thessaloniki, Greece 11 39.29%
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Thessaloniki.

Dry heat. Though I dunno why its sunshine hours are lower than Virginia's (considering it's drier and would get more clear days)?
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:06 AM
 
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Simple 'averages' are wrong yet again, so stop posting them. I've added the RH and %sun info somewhere on Wikipedia as well:
I don't care, and normals are wrong, raw averages are better because the raw average in NOAA calculate the true average temperature from the true data, not change them.
In NOAA averages section, you can calulate the average in the period that you want.
And Greece or other European country don't make a "specific normals" (they just calculate the raw average from the data) therefore you should STOP comparing what is not comparable !

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Old 04-03-2014, 03:11 AM
 
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Thessaloniki.

Dry heat. Though I dunno why its sunshine hours are lower than Virginia's (considering it's drier and would get more clear days)?
Drier =/= sunnier.
Lima in Peru is very dry but not very sunny.
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:43 AM
 
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Virginia Beach for being wetter. It also has more possibility of the odd snowy day in winter.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Bremerhaven, NW Germany
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I take Thessaloniki here, i take a dry hot summer over a humid and hot one.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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Thessaloniki.

Dry heat. Though I dunno why its sunshine hours are lower than Virginia's (considering it's drier and would get more clear days)?
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Drier =/= sunnier.
Lima in Peru is very dry but not very sunny.
In fact sun can fuel thunderstorms!
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Anne Arundel County, MD
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I don't care, and normals are wrong, raw averages are better because the raw average in NOAA calculate the true average temperature from the true data, not change them.
In NOAA averages section, you can calulate the average in the period that you want.
And Greece or other European country don't make a "specific normals" (they just calculate the raw average from the data) therefore you should STOP comparing what is not comparable !
No one but yourself could care less for your opinion, which is certainly not superior to those of NWS meteorologists and NOAA/NCDC climatologists. And you have not provided evidence that Europe has no procedures in place to deal with missing or suspect data values.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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Thessaloniki by far.
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Old 04-03-2014, 05:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'll have to go with Thessaloniki for the presumably cloudier winters. I assumed a reduction in Virginia Beach's sunshine hours of 10-15%. Not scientific by any means though.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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No one but yourself could care less for your opinion, which is certainly not superior to those of NWS meteorologists and NOAA/NCDC climatologists. And you have not provided evidence that Europe has no procedures in place to deal with missing or suspect data values.
Well, our weather source (BOM) goes by the raw/long term averages rather than the 30 year 'normals'.

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