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Old 02-19-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife (28º29'N) has directly a tropical semi-arid climate:

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Old 04-16-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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Although the tropics are defined as the space between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn, tropical climates can be observed outside of these boundaries as well. (Tropical being defined as the coldest month having a daily mean of no less than 18°C)

My guess is that the furthest north that this climate can be observed is the Midway Atoll in the Pacific Ocean (north of the 28th parallel north). The mean temperature in January is 19°C.

Is there anywhere around this far north (or south) of the equator that also observes a tropical climate? How about even further?
If tropical deserts count, then Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico at 28°N on the Sea of Cortez, and quite populated
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:33 PM
 
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South Florida
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Old 04-16-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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South Florida
If by South Florida, you mean everything south of Lake Okeechobee, then Guaymas is further poleward
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Old 04-16-2016, 09:35 PM
 
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If by South Florida, you mean everything south of Lake Okeechobee, then Guaymas is further poleward
Guaymas is not tropical.
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Old 04-16-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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Bermuda probably has microclimates that barely qualify as tropical
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Old 04-16-2016, 11:25 PM
 
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Guaymas is not tropical.
It is only not tropical by your definition because of it's aridity. If only temperatures are used, it certainly is, coldest month averages 19°C which unless I don't know how to count, is above 18°C
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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Guaymas is not tropical.
Yes it is. As it's the Canary Islands, even at 29ºN. For this reason:

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It is only not tropical by your definition because of it's aridity. If only temperatures are used, it certainly is, coldest month averages 19°C which unless I don't know how to count, is above 18°C
Same happens on the Canary Islands. The places on the Canaries with the coldest month above 18ºC are too arid to pertain to a tropical climate. But they achieve the tropical threshold.

This is impossible for a climate which is not tropical:





Coconuts (the fruit) do only achieve their mature form and the palms grow that big only in tropical climates. Madeira is the northernmost which can hold coconut palm trees (32ºN), but they don't fructify and they're low-mid sized. Also they're just a few on the island, nearby Funchal (the capital) which has a bit of UHI. In the Canaries you find them fruiting in all islands, even in Caleta de Sebo at 29º15'N.

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Old 01-01-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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The Alert research station has an indoor temp of 22C year round so that's tropical, huh?

I'd guess the truth is Santa Cruz though, but as said before I wouldn't rule out there being one on Bermuda, and with recent warming I'd assume Bermuda is not far from having a general tropical climate already. Madeira is a bit far away from it still though.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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The Alert research station has an indoor temp of 22C year round so that's tropical, huh?

I'd guess the truth is Santa Cruz though, but as said before I wouldn't rule out there being one on Bermuda, and with recent warming I'd assume Bermuda is not far from having a general tropical climate already. Madeira is a bit far away from it still though.
Agreed, Bermuda in the next 10-20 years will have a completely tropical Af climate.
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