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Old 10-06-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: New York
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First 40's of the season smh. 48F this morning, it felt warmer with the sunshine and calm winds though.
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Old 10-06-2015, 08:06 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Yeah, I kinda figured that. Also, I think Saranac Lake is colder because it's in a valley and at higher elevation than the other stations.
It's the champion frost hollow of northern New England / Northern New England. Compare with Pinkham Notch, in a deep valley surrounded by tall mountains (Mt. Washington to the west, peaks around 4400-4800 feet to the east) and 500 feet higher. Saranac Lake has colder nights. Not sure if that region of the Adirondacks are naturally chillier (or rather have a higher diurnal range from being more continental) or it's local topography. Would have thought a deep narrow valley would be the best for radiational cooling with cold air descending to the valley bottom. But maybe a wider valley would be better because there's more landmass to cool?

Normals Monthly Station Details: SARANAC LAKE ADIRONDACK REGIONAL AIRPORT, NY US, GHCND:USW00094740 | Climate Data Online (CDO) | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Normals Monthly Station Details: PINKHAM NOTCH, NH US, GHCND:USC00276818 | Climate Data Online (CDO) | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)
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Old 10-06-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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We're expected to be near or at 80F the next 3 days
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Old 10-06-2015, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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We're expected to be near or at 80F the next 3 days
You're in an ok spot I think... don't see below normal much for you. Northeast different story. Will fluctuate.

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Sure, but by Oct 18 the average low in northern New England is in the upper 30s, maybe mid 30s in many spots. It doesn't take much below average to get a frost. You could equally pull up a mild temperature map.
Further strengthening my point those maps showing all red taking away the fact that it can be cold and frosty within the period..

Of course vise versa. If all blue was being shown doesn't mean we couldn't get into the 70s within. Was just pointing out what the same exact model was saying and it was showing cold in New England those couple days. Yes, Overall period has No real below normal but No well above normal either.

NOAA's Forecast Max temps Saturday. Below normal in Northeast.

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Old 10-06-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Latest GFS... So used to looking at the surface and 850mb I dont look at the 700mb much. So lets take a look...

While Everyone is getting rain as shown here on Friday.... take a look at the 10,000 foot temps.

Maybe Snow showers for Mt Washington at 6200'?



Edit... Looks like they are forecasting mixed precip with the front tomm.. Perhaps ice on the summit Wed night. https://www.mountwashington.org/expe...n-weather.aspx


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Old 10-06-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Euro12z is just sad to look at. Polar Jet stream does not want to dive down at all. It's just having a real hard time diving down let along getting sustained!! Still early but gees, usually I see the cold air pour in a few times by now. (what would give frosts/freezes easier)

It does in 10 days in the northern plains.

Here's Albany's data. Avg 850mb is 6C now.

Boxed are the colder moments in the run, not many but they are around. 0.39" for Friday

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Old 10-06-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Latest Frost Date. (36F)

Bridgeport: 11/14/77

Albany: 11/8/20

Hartford: 11/8/20

Boston: 11/17/68

Burlington: 10/22/1905
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Old 10-06-2015, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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We're expected to be near or at 80F the next 3 days
It is now 81F at 4pm. Dewpoint 54F.
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Old 10-06-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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It is now 81F at 4pm. Dewpoint 54F.
Nuts. 70 here and feels like summer. Birds chirping.

After the Friday storm. I have to be on the lookout Sunday morning.

NWS NY

HI PRES BUILDS IN BEHIND THE SYS SAT...THEN DRIFTS THRU AND EVENTUALLY S OF THE REGION BY MON. DRY WX THRU THIS PERIOD. THERE COULD BE SOME PATCHY FROST ACROSS THE COLDER INTERIOR SPOTS SAT NGT ASSUMING THE SYS TIMING HOLDS YIELDING CLR SKIES AND LGT WINDS. HAVE LOWERED TEMPS SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS FCST FOR THIS TIME FRAME
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Old 10-06-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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NWS Boston..after Sunday.. as I said.. weeeeeeee...up and down we go.

GRADUALLY INCREASING TEMPS EACH DAY FROM SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL TO ABOVE NORMAL BY TUE. IN FACT...ENSEMBLE PROBABILITIES SUGGEST H85 TEMPS MAY FALL JUST SHY OF 10C...WHICH COULD PROMOTE A BRIEF RETURN TO THE 70S BY EARLY NEXT WEEK
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