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They are still part of the Northeast, though. The Northeast is not just one big metropolis.
She's not saying Northeast = only Megapolis. New England is obviously Northeastern rural or urban. Ditto with the eastern part of upstate NY. But the western part of New York state has commonalities with the Midwest, historically and culturally. Buffalo has more in common with Cleveland than much of the rest of the Northeast.
She's not saying Northeast = only Megapolis. New England is obviously Northeastern rural or urban. Ditto with the eastern part of upstate NY. But the western part of New York state has commonalities with the Midwest, historically and culturally. Buffalo has more in common with Cleveland than much of the rest of the Northeast.
I may be wrong, but I feel like Pittsburgh as well would have more in common with a place like Cleveland, Detroit or Cincinnati than a place like NYC or Philly.
I may be wrong, but I feel like Pittsburgh as well would have more in common with a place like Cleveland, Detroit or Cincinnati than a place like NYC or Philly.
That may be so, but it would also have a lot in common with other Northeastern cities, like Scranton, etc. NYC & Philly are the outliers when it comes to the Northeast. Once you go outside of Philadelphia, you'll realize that Philadelphia is the outlier with respect to Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh has more in common with the rest of Pennsylvania.
I think that the Midwest isn't as differentiated from the Northeast as either region is from the South. So I think that's the biggest distinction.
I wouldn't really say the same for Boston. Do you not think it's the case of Philadelphia with respect to Pennsylvania?
I'm not really that familiar with Pennsylvania. Only really seen Philadelphia. Mostly familiar with New England, New York State (both upstate and downstate) and some spots of New Jersey (family knew people in Freehold and near Atlantic City that I'd visit often as a kid).
I'm not really that familiar with Pennsylvania. Only really seen Philadelphia. Mostly familiar with New England, New York State (both upstate and downstate) and some spots of New Jersey (family knew people in Freehold and near Atlantic City that I'd visit often as a kid).
Some of the closer suburbs are more-or-less like Philadelphia, but as you get even a bit away from the city, it becomes much more Pennsylvanian. Philadelphia can be a culture shock for many people even from adjacent counties in PA & NJ. Many people view it with great suspicion and seldom visit.
I enjoyed visiting Philadelphia. Went there in spring of 2012 and 2013 looking for somewhere to travel somewhat locally with family. Interesting city, though yes it has more than its share of bad areas but outside those... Tom77falcons has posted nice photos of his area of the city. Known other friends who like it. I've actually heard the reverse: it reflects Pennsylvania more so than New York City reflects the state outside of the metro area.
Boston doesn't get much hostility from other areas of Massachusetts; think the surrounding areas think well of it, even if they wouldn't want to live there.
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