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View Poll Results: In the cool season, roller coaster or consistency?
Houston, TX 17 60.71%
Ningbo, China 11 39.29%
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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It's tiring, and I say that as someone who's into flora/fauna.


It is related to weather, and perfectly explains what happens in North America almost every winter. The reason the US South looks like PA in winter is because of the winter ups and downs. Plants hate that. And yes, the inland south looks more dead in winter than even southeast PA or southern NJ. Of course, the tiny sliver along the coastline is more green in winter.
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Yuck.

Like telling me to choose which poison to die from.
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:38 PM
 
Location: The Atom
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It is related to weather, and perfectly explains what happens in North America almost every winter. The reason the US South looks like PA in winter is because of the winter ups and downs. Plants hate that. And yes, the inland south looks more dead in winter than even southeast PA or southern NJ. Of course, the tiny sliver along the coastline is more green in winter.
The coastal South is quite sizable; not a sliver by any means:
Regional Gardening Reports :: National Gardening Association

And you are reaching if you think the inland South looks more dead than PA. Deciduous trees in the South are a relic of the Ice Age; I will explain more about this upon your request.
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:56 PM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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The coastal South is quite sizable; not a sliver by any means:
Regional Gardening Reports :: National Gardening Association

And you are reaching if you think the inland South looks more dead than PA. Deciduous trees in the South are a relic of the Ice Age; I will explain more about this upon your request.

Yeah,after search too much,i I came to the same conclusion as you.

Trees migrated South to survive,and finded an suitable climate to live.

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Old 12-27-2015, 07:37 AM
 
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Ningbo for being colder in winter and wetter overall.
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Old 12-27-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Houston for me. Houston barely has a winter... the cold they do get isn't that bad at all. I thought the eastern US was bad for being cold for their latitude. I always use Atlanta since I live here, our Jan avg is 52/34 compared to Jan's averages of Phoenix 67/45, LA 67/48, Rabat 63/45, Beirut 63/52, Islamabad 63/37. All are at similar latitudes and Islamabad looks as they have a similar geography to Atlanta even has a higher elevation. But look at China's cities Xi'an 40/25 and Zhengzhou 42/24.Yeah China has us beat with being annoyingly cold for their latitude. Its even worse because the lack of snow. So definitely I choose Houston(62/43)over Ningbo(47/35), won't be living at 29 degrees latitudes dealing with it being that chilly. Bad enough I live at 33-34 latitude and I freeze my butt lol.
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Old 12-27-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine, Florida
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Houston for me. Houston barely has a winter... the cold they do get isn't that bad at all. I thought the eastern US was bad for being cold for their latitude.
wut. yes the cold they do get is bad, in fact worse than anything you would see in China at equivalent latitudes and elevation. the difference being the frequency is low. both locations have the same exact hardiness zone even though Houston has a 13°F lead in average mean temperatures during the winter months. that is sad. US South is the devil's subtropical... at least China you know it gonna be chilly, but it never gets worse than chilly.

not saying Houston is a bad climate or anything. i understand the appeal for thrill seekers and adrenaline junkies that love to see plants suffer. but in terms of tropicalness, US South is pure evil. it gives you confidence with retardedly warm el nino december, Miami in Atlanta. then a few weeks later bam its Detroit in Jacksonville.

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Old 12-27-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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wut. yes the cold they do get is bad, in fact worse than anything you would see in China at equivalent latitudes and elevation. the difference being the frequency is low. both locations have the same exact hardiness zone even though Houston has a 13°F lead in average mean temperatures during the winter months. that is sad. US South is the devil's subtropical... at least China you know it gonna be chilly, but it never gets worse than chilly.

not saying Houston is a bad climate or anything. i understand the appeal for thrill seekers and adrenaline junkies that love to see plants suffer. but in terms of tropicalness, US South is pure evil. it gives you confidence with retardedly warm el nino december, Miami in Atlanta. then a few weeks later bam its Detroit in Jacksonville.
Lol you and I feel the exact same way. If you frequent any gardening sites in the US, the unanimous common refrain in the South is something like "please no arctic cold this year" or some such worry and fretting about what kind of anomalies are going to happen. This takes place every single winter. I ask where else on earth and at the latitudes and elevation of the US South does this kind of fretting and worrying how cold it will get take place?

Nowhere is the answer. And that is because of the bizarre anomalies that go so far south in North America compared to everywhere else.
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Old 12-27-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine, Florida
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Lol you and I feel the exact same way. If you frequent any gardening sites in the US, the unanimous common refrain in the South is something like "please no arctic cold this year" or some such worry and fretting about what kind of anomalies are going to happen. This takes place every single winter. I ask where else on earth and at the latitudes and elevation of the US South does this kind of fretting and worrying how cold it will get take place?

Nowhere is the answer. And that is because of the bizarre anomalies that go so far south in North America compared to everywhere else.
yea it is a very interesting continent though, the US is one of the most exciting regions of the world to study meteorology.

Tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, droughts, blizzards, ice storms, derechos, el nino, la nina, los pantalones, heat waves, cold blasts, etc.

we really do get a bit of everything! but there is no denying the drawbacks, the drain on our economy etc. wtf does the UK have to worry about? dangerous amounts of boring? deadly drizzle? Vitamin D deficiency? (i'm exaggerating of course)
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Old 12-27-2015, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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It seems like every thread here turns into the same repetitive discussion about plant hardiness.
And a fine thing too. A place's climate can be judged by the vegetation.
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