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View Poll Results: Rate Camden, Australia
A 3 27.27%
B 6 54.55%
C 1 9.09%
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Cool. Wonder if Bangalow grow in the US. Not real familiar with that palm, but looks real nice.

I should have clarified that places in the Eastern US with an avg low of 37F wouldn't look like that, but places in the Southwest US do. They do much better in winter stability than the East. This place has an avg low of 36.8F in January:


https://goo.gl/maps/z4DrgGmxZxz
Yeah they are quite commonly planted in Los Angeles & other warmer areas, also the look-a-like Archontophoenix alexandrae, the King palm, which has become naturalised around Hilo on Hawaii...

Yeah Camden is obviously very stable, with a record low of just -6C, so I'd imagine the minimums never stray too far below the average...
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:01 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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We have average winter lows around 37f and our vegetation looks similar to the eastern or mid-Atlantic US?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.41...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.42...7i13312!8i6656

Though you can grow musa basjoo here.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.42...7i13312!8i6656

When I lived in Australia, I would often drive to/from work through Toowoomba, and felt that the vegetation didn't feel very Australian at all, more European (even though Toowoomba's average low in the coldest month is 44f)...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-27.5...8i6656!6m1!1e1

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Old 06-06-2016, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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When I lived in Australia, I would often drive to/from work through Toowoomba, and felt that the vegetation didn't feel very Australian at all, more European (even though Toowoomba's average low in the coldest month is 44f)...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-27.5...8i6656!6m1!1e1
Are you talking about its deciduous trees in some of its roads?
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Old 06-06-2016, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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We have average winter lows around 37f and our vegetation looks similar to the eastern or mid-Atlantic US?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.41...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.42...7i13312!8i6656

Though you can grow musa basjoo here.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.42...7i13312!8i6656

When I lived in Australia, I would often drive to/from work through Toowoomba, and felt that the vegetation didn't feel very Australian at all, more European (even though Toowoomba's average low in the coldest month is 44f)...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-27.5...8i6656!6m1!1e1


Your vegetation in winter does not look like around here where I live. I have seen pics from London area in winter and as I have said it is more green than here. As far as being deciduous heavy, that is what the people want most likely. Who knows, may be if more people in that area of England planted more palms and evergreens it would look more like Camden, AU vs the eastern US.
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Are you talking about its deciduous trees in some of its roads?


Why would people want deciduous trees in Australia? How many native deciduous trees are there in Australia?
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:11 PM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Your vegetation in winter does not look like around here where I live. I have seen pics from London area in winter and as I have said it is more green than here. As far as being deciduous heavy, that is what the people want most likely. Who knows, may be if more people in that area of England planted more palms and evergreens it would look more like Camden, AU vs the eastern US.
England is Really impressive for its latitude,they can grow even some Palms !
Here in South America at 52S you even can dream with that,the vegetation at this Latitude in Patagonia is heavy Deciduous.

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Why would people want deciduous trees in Australia? How many native deciduous trees are there in Australia?
They only have one,native from Tasmania Highlands:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuscospora_gunnii
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:01 AM
 
Location: In transition
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England is Really impressive for its latitude,they can grow even some Palms !
Here in South America at 52S you even can dream with that,the vegetation at this Latitude in Patagonia is heavy Deciduous.



They only have one,native from Tasmania Highlands:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuscospora_gunnii
The Magellanic subpolar forest has some broadleaf evergreens like Drimys winteri and I'm fairly sure Trachycarpus fortunei can be grown in Punta Arenas in a sheltered area.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:08 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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The Magellanic subpolar forest has some broadleaf evergreens like Drimys winteri and I'm fairly sure Trachycarpus fortunei can be grown in Punta Arenas in a sheltered area.
Thoses Evergreens in Magellanic Forest are more restricted to the Milder Coastal Western Areas,While the Drier,Colder Eastern Part of the Forest are 90% Deciduous.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Why would people want deciduous trees in Australia? How many native deciduous trees are there in Australia?
They're nice to look at. They are lively, as they change colours. What's not to like?

No idea, but we have a lot of them planted in our main roads. Here are some examples (from two Sydney suburbs):

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:24 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Are you talking about its deciduous trees in some of its roads?
Yeah, it was full of oak, plane and pine trees, with the usual eucalyptus. Ignoring the architecture, it almost felt like an English town.
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