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Old 06-02-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Connectucut shore but on a hill
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Lemishine is citric acid. Supposedly Tang works too, that's basically sugar and citric acid (I haven't tried it). Interestingly backpackers use Tang to neutralize the taste of iodine-based water purification tablets. Again, it's the citric acid.

Anyway, I'm gonna try more detergent too. We've avoided that cause my wife is dead set against using more detergent for some philosophical reason.

Also, I found that once the spots are there they'll stay there until I do a vinegar treatment. Just rewashing doesn't get them off. But a big dose of vinegar in the pre-rinse gets them off. After they're gone they tend to stay gone.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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FYI, 2 cups of vinegar is even better than 1 (!) Spotting is still faintly there, but so much better. Haven't removed Lemishine from the equation yet, but I might try that as well.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:47 AM
 
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If deposits are heavy it makes more sense that 2 c is better than 1. In the meanitme I did more homework and rediscovered a few things I forgot.

Vinegar is mildly corrosive to many metals. Citric acid isn't. I'd be a little concerned about the effect on washer life of habitually dumping in vinegar. plastic and stainless steel won't be affected but plain iron or steel probably would be (pump, heating element, valves, other parts). Citric acid also "captures" the hard water ions very effectively, it's like a chemical water softener.

Over the long haul I think citric acid would the better choice, but certainly more expensive and harder to get in quantity - at least the way it's packaged and marketed as a cleaning aid. I'm going to see what a 5 lb tub of it costs online or from a chemical supplier. That might be the way to go. If I find something reasonable I'll post.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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Check this out: citric | biodiesel supplies
Very interesting site. I just ordered 5 lbs of citric acid. It's food ingredient, very benign, no handling issues. Just don't get it in your eyes.
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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Check this out: citric | biodiesel supplies
Very interesting site. I just ordered 5 lbs of citric acid. It's food ingredient, very benign, no handling issues. Just don't get it in your eyes.
Wow, thanks. I'd order the 50lb tub, but I don't think I'd have much luck lugging it back and forth to my dishwasher...
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Reviving this thread to mention that I recently tried OxiClean's dishwasher product. It's a rinse agent, with glycolic acid, I believe.

Excellent results. Actually better than vinegar/citric acid/extra detergent combo.

Still using with powdered detergent.

So happy that I will look into the other dishwasher products they have.

FWIW.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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I've been helping out an old friend and washing his dishes for him.. they r coated with a film from the well water.. i wash by hand.. Is there any ajent i can add in the sink with dishsoap that will break down this film. i also dry the dishes immediatly but they still r dull n filmy..im willing to give almost any thing a try.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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I've been helping out an old friend and washing his dishes for him.. they r coated with a film from the well water.. i wash by hand.. Is there any ajent i can add in the sink with dishsoap that will break down this film. i also dry the dishes immediatly but they still r dull n filmy..im willing to give almost any thing a try.
Try a little citric acid in the rinse water.
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