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Most of Westchester is white. Why would the OP want to live there if he wants diversity? Why not just go back to Forest Hills? Queens is the most diverse place perhaps within in the entire country, so I think it's rather ridiculous to compare Westchester to Forest Hills, or furthermore to go from one place to another and expect the same thing. It's always irritating to me when people move from one place that was one way and them come to another place and try to change things.
Because he realizes "white" doesn't mean much. A Greek and a Finn, both white, can be much further apart culturally than a Black American and a white American.
Because he realizes "white" doesn't mean much. A Greek and a Finn, both white, can be much further apart culturally than a Black American and a white American.
The word "diversity" is used today to insinuate an area that has a high number of blacks or latinos, very little whites. In other words, diversity is code word for a predominately "colored" community. They'd have you believe that Harlem or Mt. Vernon is diverse but Scarsdale isn't. Apparently it is the politically correct thing to do to embrace so called "diversity" because if you don't, you're a racist. This is the crazy world we live in today.
By the way, Mt. Vernon is really NOT diverse. We all know the predominate demographic there. Let's not kid ourselves.
Most of Westchester is white. Why would the OP want to live there if he wants diversity? Why not just go back to Forest Hills? Queens is the most diverse place perhaps within in the entire country, so I think it's rather ridiculous to compare Westchester to Forest Hills, or furthermore to go from one place to another and expect the same thing. It's always irritating to me when people move from one place that was one way and them come to another place and try to change things.
I am not trying to change things, or expect exactly the same, and if you'd read further down to one of my other comments you would see that I even mentioned how I should have prefaced my original post with the fact that I am not expecting anywhere near the same level/intensity of diversity that I experienced in Queens. I also explained in my original comment, that I am new to exploring Westchester and am simply asking honest questions of those who live in the county, in attempt to better understand the lay of the land, so to speak. I am not trying to "change" anything, nor am I expecting a carbon copy of Forest Hills. I just find that, from what I am seeing for myself and reading here on forums, "diversity" means something very different these days, especially as discussed on these Westchester forums.
In terms of returning to Forest Hills, sometimes we can't always "turn back the clock." It is still a diverse, and I believe wonderful place, but also very difficult now to find a decent single family home there for a remotely affordable price. Finances, and changing times, are what they are, and sometimes people do need to move onward with life and move to different areas. I accept that and am OK with it. I am also OK with change. This forum is, I assume, a place where people can learn from others' experience, which is all I am hoping to do.
Because he realizes "white" doesn't mean much. A Greek and a Finn, both white, can be much further apart culturally than a Black American and a white American.
The word "diversity" is used today to insinuate an area that has a high number of blacks or latinos, very little whites. In other words, diversity is code word for a predominately "colored" community. They'd have you believe that Harlem or Mt. Vernon is diverse but Scarsdale isn't. Apparently it is the politically correct thing to do to embrace so called "diversity" because if you don't, you're a racist. This is the crazy world we live in today.
By the way, Mt. Vernon is really NOT diverse. We all know the predominate demographic there. Let's not kid ourselves.
By the way, Mt. Vernon is really NOT diverse. We all know the predominate demographic there. Let's not kid ourselves.
It appears that there is some diversity in Mt. Vernon. Not just the type hilltopjay winkingly refers to, but people from all over Europe, Asia, and elsewhere as well. It seems Mount Vernon has notable Italian, Portuguese, French, Greek, Chinese, German, Philipino, Thai, Japanese, and Polish populations, and remember this list is of people for whom these are primary languages, not just self proclaimed ancestry census data.
Total
English 13,797
All languages other than English combined 5,142
Spanish or Spanish Creole 1,642
Italian 1,000
Portuguese or Portuguese Creole 929
French (incl. Patois, Cajun) 199
Greek 153
Chinese 145
French Creole 142
German 103
Tagalog 100
Other Asian languages 84
African languages 79
Thai 78
Japanese 67
Polish 64
Gujarathi 46
Hindi 45
Other Slavic languages 37
Arabic 31
Hebrew 28
Korean 27
Other Pacific Island languages 25
Persian 23
Other Indo-European languages 20
Scandinavian languages 14
Other West Germanic languages 14
Urdu 13
Serbo-Croatian 8
Russian 8
Other Indic languages 6
Armenian 6
Yiddish 6
Hungarian 0
Laotian 0
Miao, Hmong 0
Mon-Khmer, Cambodian 0
Navajo 0
Other and unspecified languages 0
Other Native North American languages 0
Vietnamese 0
Total: 18,939
It appears that there is some diversity in Mt. Vernon. Not just the type hilltopjay winkingly refers to, but people from all over Europe, Asia, and elsewhere as well. It seems Mount Vernon has notable Italian, Portuguese, French, Greek, Chinese, German, Philipino, Thai, Japanese, and Polish populations, and remember this list is of people for whom these are primary languages, not just self proclaimed ancestry census data.
Total
English 13,797
All languages other than English combined 5,142
Spanish or Spanish Creole 1,642
Italian 1,000
Portuguese or Portuguese Creole 929
French (incl. Patois, Cajun) 199
Greek 153
Chinese 145
French Creole 142
German 103
Tagalog 100
Other Asian languages 84
African languages 79
Thai 78
Japanese 67
Polish 64
Gujarathi 46
Hindi 45
Other Slavic languages 37
Arabic 31
Hebrew 28
Korean 27
Other Pacific Island languages 25
Persian 23
Other Indo-European languages 20
Scandinavian languages 14
Other West Germanic languages 14
Urdu 13
Serbo-Croatian 8
Russian 8
Other Indic languages 6
Armenian 6
Yiddish 6
Hungarian 0
Laotian 0
Miao, Hmong 0
Mon-Khmer, Cambodian 0
Navajo 0
Other and unspecified languages 0
Other Native North American languages 0
Vietnamese 0
Total: 18,939
I'm sorry but when you're in Mt. Vernon, the first type of people that smack you in the face when you first enter Mt. Vernon are blacks, not Italians or other whites. Lets me real here. So Mt. Vernon is NOT diverse by any means. Go to the high school and you can probably count with your fingers how many white students you see there. Diverse Mt. Vernon is NOT. I'm sorry.
The word "diversity" is used today to insinuate an area that has a high number of blacks or latinos, very little whites. In other words, diversity is code word for a predominately "colored" community. They'd have you believe that Harlem or Mt. Vernon is diverse but Scarsdale isn't. Apparently it is the politically correct thing to do to embrace so called "diversity" because if you don't, you're a racist. This is the crazy world we live in today.
By the way, Mt. Vernon is really NOT diverse. We all know the predominate demographic there. Let's not kid ourselves.
I don't think that anyone would call Detroit diverse, eventhough its SW(and old money) sections actually are to varying degrees. So, I don't think that is completely true.
Sometimes it is a matter of degree/volume. For instance, Forest Hills doesn't have a lot of Black residents. They are there, but they make up about 3% of the population. So, to what extent of each group is also something to consider.
Like I mentioned with Detroit, much of Mount Vernon's diversity is in its North Side/Fleetwood area. You can view such demographics on the map here: Mount Vernon, NY (check the census tracts and census blocks for such information)
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