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My previous complaint was about the people who turn in resumes with incorrect information.
This time, it is as follows:
If you are working with a recruiter DO NOT go around the recruiter and get the job interview yourself. You end up looking like an idiot who is disloyal. Especially when you don't tell the other one what you have done.
We have a really great position. It is full time and has great benefits and pay. A guy contacted us about the position. We got his resume ready, helped him tweak it to the specifications we KNOW they want because we are working closely with the client. We got his references together (which were an issue as the numbers were wrong but that is not the issue now) and submitted him. We were ready to talk him up to the company.
We got a phone call. The person had already applied and had been told they were going through the other applicants before making a decision. So this moron decided to stay in the process with us and not tell us that he interviewed. So, when the internal person called, it was to tell us they had already interviewed the guy, that he was in the running, and to ask if we had been told that the guy was submitting himself and why we submitted him. We said we did not know.
Fast forward about 2 hours. The guy calls furious that we submitted him and got him pulled from the running. Apparently, the hiring person at the job called and asked him point blank why he told neither of us that he was also working with the other. He replied "I didn't know I had to" and at that point, the person told him that she appreciated his interest bu they had decided to pursue other candidates.
So, to all those who think they can pull one over on employers, just a tale of how EASY it is to get caught in a way you never saw coming.
So the crap some folks on here said earlier about taking people out to lunch or just simply sending your resume to the hiring manager was BS after all.
He would have likely been successful with one or the other of us.
The issue was that he decided to do so without telling at least one of us. If he told the company, they would have been expecting us to also submit him. If he had told us, we could have submitted him with the note that we know he had already contacted them.
The thing that I do not understand is trying to play us against one another. We WANT to fill this position, we make money if we do. So, yes, it took us longer...but we tweaked his resume and pre-contacted his references. We weren't sitting around ignoring him.
So the crap some folks on here said earlier about taking people out to lunch or just simply sending your resume to the hiring manager was BS after all.
What woulda thunk!?
I wonder how much I would have to spend on lunch? lol
So the crap some folks on here said earlier about taking people out to lunch or just simply sending your resume to the hiring manager was BS after all.
What woulda thunk!?
No, it is far from BS. If you are using a recruiter, obviously you don't go around them. If you aren't using a recruiter, all of those things are extremely helpful.
My previous complaint was about the people who turn in resumes with incorrect information.
This time, it is as follows:
If you are working with a recruiter DO NOT go around the recruiter and get the job interview yourself. You end up looking like an idiot who is disloyal. Especially when you don't tell the other one what you have done.
We have a really great position. It is full time and has great benefits and pay. A guy contacted us about the position. We got his resume ready, helped him tweak it to the specifications we KNOW they want because we are working closely with the client. We got his references together (which were an issue as the numbers were wrong but that is not the issue now) and submitted him. We were ready to talk him up to the company.
We got a phone call. The person had already applied and had been told they were going through the other applicants before making a decision. So this moron decided to stay in the process with us and not tell us that he interviewed. So, when the internal person called, it was to tell us they had already interviewed the guy, that he was in the running, and to ask if we had been told that the guy was submitting himself and why we submitted him. We said we did not know.
Fast forward about 2 hours. The guy calls furious that we submitted him and got him pulled from the running. Apparently, the hiring person at the job called and asked him point blank why he told neither of us that he was also working with the other. He replied "I didn't know I had to" and at that point, the person told him that she appreciated his interest bu they had decided to pursue other candidates.
So, to all those who think they can pull one over on employers, just a tale of how EASY it is to get caught in a way you never saw coming.
Why does it matter if he applies himself? Seriously, that shows far more initiative than him waiting for you to apply for him.
Why does it matter if he applies himself? Seriously, that shows far more initiative than him waiting for you to apply for him.
This is like hiring a real estate agent to buy a house, he finds a house for you, walks you through it three times, and then you make a deal with the seller directly so that you don't have to pay commission. It is shady, slimy, and says a lot about a person's (lack of) character.
This is like hiring a real estate agent to but a house, he finds a house for you, walks you through it three times, and then you make a deal with the seller directly so that you don't have to pay commission. It is shady, slimy, and says a lot about a person's (lack of) character.
Um...NOOOO...he applied first. He was not walked through. He landed the interview before the recruiter managed to. It would be like me finding a house on my own and buying it on my own because my real estate agent was dragging his feet.
Um...NOOOO...he applied first. He was not walked through. He landed the interview before the recruiter managed to. It would be like me finding a house on my own and buying it on my own because my real estate agent was dragging his feet.
And yet he still agreed to work with a recruiter. As soon as you agree to work with an agent, you stop looking on your own. You either stop looking on your own, or if you are unsatisfied with your recruiter, you call them and tell the recruiter that you are no longer using them.
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