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Old 08-19-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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This is not the real world. People say stupid things on the Internet.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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As hard as you try to make men into women, it won't work. If you want a wife, marry of shack up with a female. Don't marry a man if you want a girlfriend.
I'm a man. You need to get a clue. You should look at many men in our younger generations who have embraced the traditional role of women in homemaking, cooking and cleaning. Our society is changing, and I'd hate for you to be unaware and bitter about it. There is nothing unmanly about completing these tasks. To think otherwise is misogyny at its worst.
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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It's 2013 and we are actually having this discussion? Of course staying at home is a job, but of course career women (and supportive spouses) can manage careers+kids+home much better than ever before in the history of time. And I thank God I was raised by a career woman, even if she didn't get quite as much help as my career woman wife, I think she was an incredible mom. And I am a better person (and more supportive spouse) as a result. I cannot believe comments like "allowing your kids to be raised by pornography" etc, wow - I guess judging people you don't know is an awesome pastime.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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I'm a man. You need to get a clue. You should look at many men in our younger generations who have embraced the traditional role of women in homemaking, cooking and cleaning. Our society is changing, and I'd hate for you to be unaware and bitter about it. There is nothing unmanly about completing these tasks. To think otherwise is misogyny at its worst.
Yes it is unmanly. So you want your girlfriend to mow the lawn, fix the plumbing, fix the leaky roof, and rotate the tires, while you scrub the kitchen floor? That is so messed up.

I suppose you get facials and pedicures too.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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Career women are a minority.

I know plenty of women who would love nothing more than to find a man who earns 100k/year, pop out some babies and stay at home all day.
Or if her husband owns a small business, she appoints herself as the "office manager" where her only job is to bully around her husband's attractive female employees. Some of them also "volunteer" at their kids' schools, harassing the teachers and administrators.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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How exactly do these people expect women to financially survive? How is a woman supposed to pay for food, rent/mortgage, a car, gas, college and other living expenses if she doesn't have a career or steady job? What exactly do these morons expect women to do?

If I focus on building my career, people will say that I'm cold and selfish.

If I take public assistance, people will say I'm a parasite.

If I look for a man with a good job to support me, people will say I'm a gold digger.

If I live at home with my parents, people will say I'm a mooch/bum.
First of all, while there are certainly people who dislike women from one of those 4 categories, I do not think it is the same people who dislike all 4 categories. For example, someone who dislikes a woman who "focuses on building her career" is not likely to also dislike women who look for a man with a good job.

Secondly, the term "career woman" is more of a prejorative label for a woman who puts her career above absolutely anything else. It is not a neutral term for a woman who has a career. Most people who dislike women who put their career above absolutely anything else are also going to dislike men who put their career above absolutely anything else. It's not the gender issue that people try to turn it into. In general, most labels are going to be negative.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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This is what I've seen and heard from my fellow friends.

When in a relationship with a a career woman it's always her money money and never our money.

I know way too many women with careers that are total spend thrifts. The male is down in the bilge pumping out the water while the woman is still bringing more crap on board.
I think part of the problem is that men from my generation were raised to "let the woman have her way", and many men take that to the extreme. I find that, in general, men are more big picture oriented, and women are more detail oriented. Assuming that is true of a couple, then it makes sense for the husband to defer to his wife when it comes to details that are important to the wife but meaningless to the husband. However, it is a bad idea to always "let the woman have her way" when it comes to very serious decisions; those always need to be made equally by both spouses.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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It's because MANY, thought not all, so-called "career women" are hugely obnoxious and marry their careers instead of simply attending work and living out their lives like more balanced people.

Many, thought not all (always have to give disclaimers for this sensitive bunch) "career women" come across or actually are jaded, strained, confrontational, and above all, DESPERATE in their attempts for validation from the rest of the world. "I am woman--hear me roar!" they bark and bellow to everyone who will listen as they brag about their commissions, bonuses, promotions, and academic accolades.
And I find men with those personalities to be just as distasteful.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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When I was in college (2000-2005) I worked with a guy who was straight out of the 1950s and he was looking for a wife who would cook, clean, and get pregnant. It was very strange to see that in this day and age.
If that is what he wants, and he finds a wife who also wants that lifestyle, then what is wrong with that?
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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The men who hate women with careers are misogynist jerks. They know they can't get much so they blame women. I had a friend who hates women with careers because he wanted a woman to stay at home to cater. He got one, but she's dumb, obese and homely so he got what he deserved.
You might find her "dumb, obese, and homely", but I'm sure he loves her and finds her beautiful.
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