What is your opinion of job postings without salary information? (highest, applying)
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I have had many interviews where the interviewer has made it clear that the candidate that will likely be selected will be cheap and inexpensive. To me, these interviews were such a huge waste of time, I knew from that point that I wouldn't be considered highly due to my education and experience and price. The way I see myself saving everyone's time and money is just being blunt and asking what the salary range is for the position during the phone interview. Would this be something to consider?
As of right now I do not ask salary until they have chosen a candidate or they bring it up during the in-person interview. However, I'm sick of wasting my time and effort (and paid leave time) to go to an in-person interview to only be passed over because they would rather hire someone with less experience and ultimately low pay.
What do you think about job postings without salary ranges? Do you ask during the phone interview what the salary range is?
I agree I get why they do it, if they post a scale everyone wants top of the scale. That said it's frustrating not knowing if I'm going to an interview for a job that starts at 30k or 70k.
I don't ask about the salary information during the phone screening. What I have found is that the salary is not set in stone, anyway. For the last 3 jobs, I ended up getting more money than originally offered or expected by the company.
For my last job, I was bumped to a higher salary grade and position. I was already making more than the salary range for the applied position. I had more experience than needed.
is this as bad as asking me to tell them (employer) what my salary demands are? isn't that "Catch 22?" I'm too high, I'm out of the running; I'm too low, I've undervalued myself...
It's helpful to see it sometimes. You can weed out the companies that are trying to overwork and underpay. That being said, my experience has been that they will ask what I currently make at some point (always tell the truth - they can usually find it out anyways). If they make an offer it'll be a few thousand more than that. If they ask me what I'm looking for, I'll tell them that I currently make X and I'd like to get a little more than that. Entirely reasonable and, as long as it's not outside their range and they like you, it won't take you out of the running.
I have never been told a salary or range either when applying or recruited for jobs, except those in the public sector. In the public sector, it is routine to get a range.
I see no reason to disclose current or previous salary. My salary goals are based entirely upon my understanding and acceptance of the salary that I need or want. If the salary that I need or want is significantly less than my current or previous salary, it's my choice. Maybe I don't care about money and just want a job doing something that I love.
Bottom line, if asked about my current or previous salary, my answer would be........it's irrelevant. Just tell me the salary offered for the job for which I am interested.
I see no reason to disclose current or previous salary. My salary goals are based entirely upon my understanding and acceptance of the salary that I need or want. If the salary that I need or want is significantly less than my current or previous salary, it's my choice. Maybe I don't care about money and just want a job doing something that I love.
Bottom line, if asked about my current or previous salary, my answer would be........it's irrelevant. Just tell me the salary offered for the job for which I am interested.
I agree with this comment. I think I just need to take the helms a little more and make them want me, not the other way around.
IMO, I find that it's a sign of an employer looking to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cheap workers. I avoid them if possible. 4 years ago, nearly every job ad I saw did not offer wage/salary ranges. Today, many do. In fact, most do in areas where demand is highest. Naturally, I have been applying to those ads almost exclusively.
is this as bad as asking me to tell them (employer) what my salary demands are? isn't that "Catch 22?" I'm too high, I'm out of the running; I'm too low, I've undervalued myself...
The salary question is a tricky business, that's for sure. A few says ago, I was applying online for a position and the APPLICATION asked for salary desired. I wasn't even talking to a human being yet! I tried to enter my standard evasive answer-Negotiable. The system said: ERROR! It would not let me go on to the next page without me entering a numerical value. After considering my options, I finally entered $0.01/hr.
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