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Old 06-27-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Out of curiosity, what other word would you use in its place?
output?
result?
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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output?
result?

Huh, I never thought of those as synonymous, exactly. A deliverable was a report, or product, that was in fact being delivered.
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Old 06-27-2014, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Socialize

As in, "we must socialize this plan to the team"


Why do we have to "socialize" it? Can't we just "inform" people. Or just tell them about it?
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Old 06-27-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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"Tiger team"
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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Hmmmm....let's see. Annoying lingo often heard.....

it's not fair
As much as I dislike the overall tone of your post, I do agree with you that when making an argument, it is best to avoid using the terms "fair" and "unfair". First of all, the person in power will just say "life isn't fair" and want to end all discussion there. Secondly, it is not clearly defined as to what is "fair" or "unfair", and what is "fair" to one person might seem "unfair" to another. Often, the term "unfair" is used when a resource where demand exceeds supply must be allocated, and whoever loses claims that it was "unfair". Even when you try to be as "fair" as possible (whatever that means), there is going to be somebody that loses out. It is best to make your arguments without using the words "fair" or "unfair".
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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As much as I dislike the overall tone of your post, I do agree with you that when making an argument, it is best to avoid using the terms "fair" and "unfair". First of all, the person in power will just say "life isn't fair" and want to end all discussion there. Secondly, it is not clearly defined as to what is "fair" or "unfair", and what is "fair" to one person might seem "unfair" to another. Often, the term "unfair" is used when a resource where demand exceeds supply must be allocated, and whoever loses claims that it was "unfair". Even when you try to be as "fair" as possible (whatever that means), there is going to be somebody that loses out. It is best to make your arguments without using the words "fair" or "unfair".
Well said.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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Have you run out of things to whine about today that you're whining about this?
Sounded to me like you're the one whining. Your post WAS off-topic, so don't complain when you're called on it.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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No whining here.

I just wasn't sure you saw the thread title, as your post for the most part seemed to be unrelated.

I thought so too.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:16 PM
 
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"Reach out to"

I cringe each time I hear that.

I second that.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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"Yeahyeahyeahyeah". Next time you are in a meeting, pay attention to how many people in the meeting, or especially a conference call states this.
And the reply is often, "It is what it is."

It's been awhile since I was in a corporate meeting but when I did attend regularly one buzzword I heard regularly at my energy/engineering firm was "thrust." Engineers love that word and adapt it to economic or technical conversations. I found them to be overall rather oblivious to sexual innuendo. My favorite of all time was found in a resume I was asked to include in a proposal I prepared for a civilian audience. In the opening paragraph the engineer described himself as "an erection specialist." Maybe he was but ...
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