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Its wrong to conclude H1B workers...fraud...immigrant etc. Few bad apples, Only a hand few, vast majority are NOT. They work really HARD.
One of the "MAIN" reason H1B guys are preferred is not just because of the cheaper labor, besides their skills.
Most locals wouldn't tolerate the work culture that these guys are subjected to.
I'll tell you whats a typical H1B workers routine.
1) There's no 8 hour job. Its mostly 9 hours on a lucky day, to 12 hours and frequent weekend work week.
There's no overtime culture these days. Employers will tell them to take off on down times, but there's never DOWN TIMES.
2) There's no leaving 30 minutes early to pick up kids, medical appointments, emergencies.
3) There's no Vacations. Not even leaves.
4) You don't get to say "NO" when it comes to receiving Work loads with unreasonable timelines. Talking about stress, thats something like a day to day cup of coffee to these guys. They always accept those ridiculous deadlines ans sacrifice their sleep & family life.
Check those facts with their American bosses who employ them to get the TRUTH.
Companies wouldn't mind paying slightly higher to their American experts, if Money was the only criteria for hiring H1B's.
Why would they want to break their heads trying to understand the foreign "accent" when they can find locals?
American companies ain't that CHEAP - just to save few pennies. There has to be more to it!
This is not necessarily true with all reputable corporations. But i do agree they will work harder / longer with no questions askes than their american counterpart (in general)
This is not necessarily true with all reputable corporations. But i do agree they will work harder / longer with no questions askes than their american counterpart (in general)
Is that because if they loose their job, they have to go leave unless they find some other employer that is willing to sponsor their H1B?
Not all companies are willing to sponsor an H1B visa.
Naturalized citizens generally have more options if things aren't working out even if they are hard working, etc. In other words, H1B's may have to put up with more and have less rights. Like, not being eligible for unemployment or being able to interview and switch jobs.
Its wrong to conclude H1B workers...fraud...immigrant etc. Few bad apples, Only a hand few, vast majority are NOT. They work really HARD.
I'll tell you whats a typical H1B workers routine.
1) There's no 8 hour job. Its mostly 9 hours on a lucky day, to 12 hours and frequent weekend work week.
There's no overtime culture these days. Employers will tell them to take off on down times, but there's never DOWN TIMES.
2) There's no leaving 30 minutes early to pick up kids, medical appointments, emergencies.
3) There's no Vacations. Not even leaves.
4) You don't get to say "NO" when it comes to receiving Work loads with unreasonable timelines. Talking about stress, thats something like a day to day cup of coffee to these guys. They always accept those ridiculous deadlines ans sacrifice their sleep & family life.
Check those facts with their American bosses who employ them to get the TRUTH.
Companies wouldn't mind paying slightly higher to their American experts, if Money was the only criteria for hiring H1B's. Why would they want to break their heads trying to understand the foreign "accent" when they can find locals?
Working hard and working smart are two different things. That's not saying that all H-1Bs are incompetent.
Regarding your comments on "routine" ... I consulted for many years with a big 4 audit firm. We employed many H-1Bs and your "routine" did not apply ..
1) All contractors / employees ( H-1B or not ) worked the same schedule dependent on deadlines.
2) No leaving for appointments ? The H-1Bs were afforded the same permissions and privileges as everyone else.
3) No vacations ? All of the Indian H-1Bs took off for India for 2-3 weeks a year. Is that not a vacation ?
4) Every employee (not just H-1Bs ) experiences unreasonable deadlines from time to time.
And they were locals that could have filled the positions ... unfortunately, I was not responsible for hiring or
American citizens would gotten the positions.
I've been hearing people bashing h1b's since 2000. Post 9/11 the fortress mentality has kept a fair amount out. Pre 9/11 we all know what happened when people overstayed a visa. Now it is much more serious.
Would we rather have work just outsourced to another country or a h1b? At least with h1b's they are spending money domestically.
At least with h1b's they are spending money domestically.
Admittedly this is purely anecdotal, but most H-1Bs tend to save most of their earnings for remit to their home country. They live as frugally as possible hear (they tend to be stacked 4 - 5 to a 2 bedroom apartment with one 5 - 7 year old used car to share). If an American citizen had their role, they would likely own a house and participate to a MUCH higher degree in the economy.
Admittedly this is purely anecdotal, but most H-1Bs tend to save most of their earnings for remit to their home country. They live as frugally as possible hear (they tend to be stacked 4 - 5 to a 2 bedroom apartment with one 5 - 7 year old used car to share). If an American citizen had their role, they would likely own a house and participate to a MUCH higher degree in the economy.
No doubt the savings rate in other countries is high however that is also due to having much less insured for banking insurance. It makes much more sense to put the funds in a US bank then one overseas. Russia for example only insures what is now about 20k USD. That's hardly anything. Hong Kong as massive as its economy is only insures up to about 65,000, UK is about 145k, and mainland europe 135k
USA is still at 250k which is still among the highest. Australia only reached that level in 2012. I doubt that h1b's are going to really invest in the stock market while working.
So while sending it home might sound good it frankly is not a good way to have insurance. In latin america especially banks can have a spotty reputation. The advantage of this frankly is that it is a liquid asset once insurance is established. This also explains why other countries can have higher rates, the default can be higher.
There are a LOT of fraudlent practices going on through consultant companies who sponsor H1B workers by editing candidates' resumes to include false work experiences & references.
If those candidates can't do the work then how do they keep the job?
No doubt the savings rate in other countries is high however that is also due to having much less insured for banking insurance. It makes much more sense to put the funds in a US bank then one overseas. Russia for example only insures what is now about 20k USD. That's hardly anything. Hong Kong as massive as its economy is only insures up to about 65,000, UK is about 145k, and mainland europe 135k
USA is still at 250k which is still among the highest. Australia only reached that level in 2012. I doubt that h1b's are going to really invest in the stock market while working.
So while sending it home might sound good it frankly is not a good way to have insurance. In latin america especially banks can have a spotty reputation. The advantage of this frankly is that it is a liquid asset once insurance is established. This also explains why other countries can have higher rates, the default can be higher.
Let's talk about the FDIC and the deposit insurance scheme yes. Do you really believe that the FDIC can cover everybody ? It's not even 250K USD per person, it's 250K USD per person per insured category per legal entity (bank). So the covered amount can reach several million USD...
I'm puzzled by this amount of coverage but yes, in theory, the US remain the best country in the world to have your bank account. In practice, God only knows.
If those candidates can't do the work then how do they keep the job?
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If you're paying an H1B less....
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