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Old 07-14-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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Nice try. Student loans are the ONLY way a lot of people can go to school and in my case there really weren't ant community colleges close by.. That being said, I don't feel sorry for people going into massive debt for worthless degrees.
But at the same time what others are saying is to attend a two year school first.

I think it can be argued that the "extras" that are at a four year school are not always used by everyone.

Not everyone is in the sports teams
Not everyone uses the pool
Not everyone uses the library
Not everyone lives in a dorm
Not everyone is in a frat/sorority

A two year school can get much of the basics out of the way so you aren't some freshmen in some 101 class filled with seniors killing time.

Also remember he might actually be working there part time on the side or be the owner.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: midtown mile area, Atlanta GA
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Usually someone involved in theater is outgoing enough to do well in sales. Acting is selling the audience on a story and a character, so sales or jobs that require an outgoing personality would be a good fit.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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I was looking at Facebook and saw the profile of a guy I grew up with. He was always into theater, so he went to a local private school that cost around $30k annually just in tuition at the time. Five years post graduation, the guy's Facebook shows him as employed at Dunkin' Donuts and he has a picture of himself in his work uniform.

Do you know many people that have made such a grave professional and financial error?
Do you know if he actually graduated or are you assuming he graduated? Do you also know if he stayed at this same school for all 4 years? Also, do you know if maybe his parents or some other sort of income might have paid for the school?

It is quick to judge someone because you see them in a picture, but do you really know what has been going on with his life for the past 9 years?
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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Maybe he is "acting" like he works at Dunkin' Donuts.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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OP, you know that people in the arts - even moderately successful people - often maintain flexible part-time employment in another field while also working in the field that they trained for... right? It's not like going to school for accounting, and they know that going in.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Interesting.

So although you were able to afford to put 4 kids through 2 years of college entirely, you have no sympathy for those who don't have parents who are well off enough to pay for their children's education.

Very interesting...
I paid less than $800 a semester at the community colleges, and the kids lived at home or paid their own living expenses - their choice. I was hardly well off when the kids were starting college - somehwere in the middle class, sure, well off? Not even close!

Kids today can access pell grants that will cover ALL tuition, books, and some amount of living expenses at the community colleges, so even if they don't have a parent to "pay" for it, using the community college to get your generals out of the way is a cost effect, smart decision.

In the highlights, my brother makes about $80-$90,000 per year, and has an alamony requirement (before taxes) of $36,000 per year - you can do the math, he's hardly "rich." He sent his daughter to a small private college at about $20,000 per year, and she majored in some feminist theory program, and lives in a comune on the west coast (Oregon, I think), working part time in a crafts feild.

I have no sympathy for people who make bad decisions, and then try to present it as somehow someone elses fault other than the decision maker!
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Montana
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How much did college cost when you put yourself through it? A couple hundred dollars a semester?
$1200 per semester in the 70's and early 80'S, just short of $3800 in todays dollars, or about the tuition rate of a lot of state colleges and universities.

I worked full time and completed my senior year at night school. We had our first kid, and my wife had a car wreck with a compound tib/fib fracture. It can be done, you just have to want it, and be willing to do what it takes to get through it - but believe me, a drama major was not in the cards!
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Ontario
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God he must hate himself...
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:58 PM
 
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I paid less than $800 a semester at the community colleges, and the kids lived at home or paid their own living expenses - their choice. I was hardly well off when the kids were starting college - somehwere in the middle class, sure, well off? Not even close!

Kids today can access pell grants that will cover ALL tuition, books, and some amount of living expenses at the community colleges, so even if they don't have a parent to "pay" for it, using the community college to get your generals out of the way is a cost effect, smart decision.

In the highlights, my brother makes about $80-$90,000 per year, and has an alamony requirement (before taxes) of $36,000 per year - you can do the math, he's hardly "rich." He sent his daughter to a small private college at about $20,000 per year, and she majored in some feminist theory program, and lives in a comune on the west coast (Oregon, I think), working part time in a crafts feild.

I have no sympathy for people who make bad decisions, and then try to present it as somehow someone elses fault other than the decision maker!
It's just very smug to say you have no sympathy for another person when your kids were fortunate enough to have their mommy and daddy support them.

JMHO.
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Welcome to OBlubber's America. Blame the morons of this country who continue to re-elect inept clowns who couldn't manage a wet fart after a dinner at taco bell much less run the country.

It has nothing to do with people getting expensive education. It has everything to do with Jobs not being created other than service level minimum wage jobs
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