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Old 07-24-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by marilyn220 View Post
Good that you're proud of yourself for this.





Because those rules are STUPID and they probably didn't think you were serious. I just hope and pray you weren't their FIRST job experience in the real world, because it's bosses like you that would leave a very nasty taste in people new to the job world.

If it's retail, then I can understand 100%, because cell phones are a no-no, but at the OFFICE?? Seriously??? Just because they are LOOKING AT THE DARN THING?? Really???
It's a very safe bet you work some sort of 'job' that isn't the kind of career a parent would hope their child grew up to achieve in their own life so your 'texting at work' is probably irrelevant as long as you have your headset on when the drive-through bell rings.

Like I said. The phone rule is the ultimate loser-weeder. It's not like losers are consciously aware that they're losers, but you sure can flush 'em out by telling them that there won't be any phone use at work! Its like shining light on cockroaches.

 
Old 07-24-2014, 03:56 PM
 
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You wouldn't last a week
WTF are you talking about???

Didn't you read MY posts on the subject of working for YOU???

Obviously NOT or you never would have posted the above. Let me be clear (*said in my Obama voice*), as soon as you would have laid out your crappy "rules", I NEVER would have WORKED for YOU. I would have considered you a backwards and exceptionally nuisance employer who I would NOT get along with. I would HATE you just like your CURRENT employees do. None of them RESPECT you. They need the money which is why they are putting up with your nonsense. Lord knows what else you subject them to, because I know there is more. You are too controlling and you stalk them online after they leave to see what they say about you. This is extremely pathetic and sad. Really, it is.



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And not just because with that post you essentially went full retard. It's because the losers can only keep it concealed for so long before they say or do something that demonstrates what you're really dealing with.
Lol! This is what I say about employers/supervisors like YOU. LMFAO!!

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In your case, it was that wall of histrionics.
Um, NO. I'm not a screamer, even when that a$$wipe boss was yelling his head off, I still kept it together.

I will repeat what I said to you EARLIER, the NEXT TIME someone acts like YOU or my previous jack-hole boss, I will smile, calmly get up, collect my things and WALK OUT. That's it. No conversation. No anything. It will be clear as day why I left. All that will be left for me to do is email or fedex Human Resources or whomever is in charge of PAYING ME my resignation letter, where to mail my check and the date to expect it by.

If I hear NOTHING or don't receive my check within a set time period, I will contact email (or FEDEX) them again, asking where my money is and that if I don't receive it by the end of the week, then I will contact the state Department of Labor to alert them of the matter.

No "histrionics". No one in the office will ever say they heard "us" arguing, because no words will leave my lips. Hell, I may even turn on the audio or video recorder of my cellphone to catch the boss's disrespect, then email it to EVERYONE in the office.
 
Old 07-24-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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It's a very safe bet you work some sort of 'job' that isn't the kind of career a parent would hope their child grew up to achieve in their own life so your 'texting at work' is probably irrelevant as long as you have your headset on when the drive-through bell rings.
Wow. There's a lot of "assumptions" in this thread.

First, I "text and drive" (where this came from, I'll never know ) and now, I work a "drive-thru" or something along those lines. You're such a snob, you don't even realize that fast food workers (of all the retail establishments) can in no way have a cellphone on the floor. Ever.

But I digress...


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Like I said. The phone rule is the ultimate loser-weeder. It's not like losers are consciously aware that they're losers, but you sure can flush 'em out by telling them that there won't be any phone use at work! Its like shining light on cockroaches.
I agree, but moreso for EMPLOYERS.
 
Old 07-24-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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All of my unofficial web browsing takes place on my phone, through my personal provider's data network. If my company ever checks their network to spy on my browsing history, they won't find much, unless they'd count any questionable ad content against me.

I've been punished too many times in my life for being naive, and have spent too many years of my life job-hunting. I just use the company computer for business, period.
 
Old 07-24-2014, 05:30 PM
 
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So many are missing the point illustrated here - If there are ten people in the office who "get the work done", but "Everyone in my office surfs the web", perhaps they can get the work done with only seven or eight people. Most companies can't afford to be overstaffed. As an employer I'd be looking to eliminate a couple of positions.

And guess who I'd be looking at first?
Yep -- and I think it's also one of those things that it really depends on the job. I've never worked anywhere where my work wasn't immediately quantifiable. I was a bank teller with additional duties (heck -- I was their foreign department!) and I handled 200-400 transactions a day -- was by far the largest "producer" there. And I balanced to the penny almost daily -- and outages were usually under a dollar or found the next day, by an unbalanced transaction.

We now own a janitorial company and I have set tasks to complete at certain properties daily.

Never having worked somewhere where you might have to wait 30 minutes for a document to print so many times, so you can then put it together for a meeting somewhere.... and you can't leave the printer just in case, so you have a half hour to kill and can't do much of anything -- might as well play online.

As much as it would drive me crazy that my coworkers were wasting time -- and trust me, when I worked at the bank -- I saw it ALL the time, and it made me crazy there -- there really are times when you need to clean your desk, rearrange your stuff, jaw to co-workers.

As hard as I worked at the bank, and as hard as I work now -- I can't imagine working at a place that counts your keystrokes and micromanages my time. Which is why I will never ever work at another place ever again. My next stop is retirement.
 
Old 07-24-2014, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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When I read some of the posts defending the use of company owned equipment, or texting and phoning on your own cell phone during company paid hours, I realize why this country is in so much trouble. People somehow feel entitled to slack off during hours for which they are being paid to work, and they take offense that someone calls them on it !

This is why most of the people taking this position will never own or run a company. If they were in charge and responsible for keeping that company profitable they would see how destructive some of this goofing off on company time can be. An owner or boss is responsible for the welfare of every employee in the company, not just the few who choose to waste time and resources.

Become an owner or manager then come back and tell us if you still feel the same way. I bet you won't.

Don
 
Old 07-24-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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I'd say just about anyone mid 30's and younger I work with are texting on every break...

The lunch room use to have a lot of conversation and some fun... now, it is almost silent as everyone is on their smart phones...

Never had one and don't text...
 
Old 07-24-2014, 07:30 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I'd say just about anyone mid 30's and younger I work with are texting on every break...

The lunch room use to have a lot of conversation and some fun... now, it is almost silent as everyone is on their smart phones...

Never had one and don't text...

From time to time I've had coworkers who seemed obsessed with their phones on their lunch break or when they're off having a smoke but I didn't see them doing it for long periods of time at their desk. They might return a text occasionally or read a personal e-mail but they didn't hang out on their phone for more than a moment or two.

The only group of people I've seen horribly abusing company time with their cell phones is Indians. Some of them seemed to be talking on them more than they were working, and in meetings half of them were texting away furiously.

Just callin' it as I see it.
 
Old 07-24-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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It's not hatred.
It's observational disgust.

It's an entire generation so obviously I'm not speaking about individuals, just observable generational trends but yeah. God forbid Germany rolled into Poland today. The most these morons could muster would be signing an online petition and changing their facebook wall status to "Feeling Conflicted".
You sure have an awful lot of posted for someone who just joined in May of this year. What was your screen name before you got banned last time? BigBossMan? Are you the same big tough guy who also claimed he would fire men that took leave under the FMLA for the birth of the child?
 
Old 07-24-2014, 09:41 PM
 
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I'm guessing employee satisfaction doesn't come in to play much with you're at. The truth is that employees are most efficient when they are happy to be doing the work and respect their employer, not when they feel threatened into "looking busy" at all times in fear of losing their jobs.

I'm a member of a pretty fantastic team who manages the systems infrastructure which runs the core of our large organization. My team does not have a set time to show up to work, leave work, or a set number of hours we work per week. We're simply expected to get the work done.

There are times when absolute focus is requires -- let's say, when there's an outage and business has halted. However, there are other times when it would be simply ridiculous to expect us to work non-stop for 8 hours a day. We take breaks, we go for walks, shop on Amazon, hit up the company gym, and we even occasionally break from work in the middle of the day to play some golf.

Does this mean work doesn't get done or that we're less efficient than a team who has zero morale, zero respect for the company, yet sits in front of the screen from start to finish? Heck no. We know our role, we know what's required, and we work to get it done. We work as a team, volunteer for tasks, and thoroughly enjoy being at work.

My stance on this scenario is that if the OP is in an environment where such a reaction is generated for merely surfing the web, then you're probably best suited to leave and find a company that better respects its employees.
I most likely wouldn't be using a company computer if it was a job I liked and had decent pay as I would want to be secure in what I am doing esp when I'd remember the feeling I'm feeling now. I would much rather be employed than to worry about whether I can use the company computer when that's what time off is for.
Sometimes it can't be pleasant esp in this economy but you have to just deal with it if you want a job. However, it'd be ridiculous to not be able to get a break after working long hours. If I didn't get much of a break in between, I wouldn't be sitting there looking "pretty". I'd definitely have to do something. I'm the type to most of the time just not sit and do nothing. Even when I'm watching TV, I'm usually at least playing on my phone otherwise I'd go insane. Most likely I STILL wouldn't be playing on company computer but I would probly bring in a word game book/print out for those occasions or a magazine or something or I'd play on my smartphone or tablet. Now I did check my email once in high school and I almost got busted but no need for that now with my Iphone.
The main reason I'm not sure about doing anything on company computer is whatever my smartphone can't access could be a security risk. It's their property. I get mad on the few times I have stupidly chanced my own computer, I'm not going to do that with someone else. Contrary to popular belief viruses do not just come from porn sites or sometimes not even download sites. It's a sad fact of life but hackers just seem to get more and more desperate these days. Though I would hope that the company had an anti-virus on their computer regardless that's just not smart and if they didn't, well that's what I'd probly use my downtime at where ever I was working. I'd feel responsible if I didn't try to help them keep their computers secure.
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