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Originally Posted by eyeb
@vintage_girl, but what you said contradicts itself, it might be hard to find what you call "better-paying" jobs, but the economy does have "jobs". You can refuse to acknowledge there are low paying jobs, but they are there. Sure, they aren't good for the economy, but the jobs are still coming back slowly. You wanting to narrow down what type of jobs that come back before saying the economy is better doesn't hold water because everyone always wants a "better" job. For the experience work, maybe things have changed but my first high school job where I made sandwiches at a deli, I was able to get some inventory experience/office experience/ordering experience just by offering to help out. Sure, I didn't get "paid" more but you know what, I got what I needed from it, and moved on. Not everything requires being paid more to do "extra" work. Sometimes you just do it so you can learn the new skills and then you can leverage it into another job later on.
Some people might say I was being taken advantage of because I did jobs "outside" of my role... so what? I took advantage of them by "DOING" those jobs because no one would have hired someone without experience in the first place. The amount of money I could have made from that job was $1-2/hr more, instead I got experience to make $10-15/hr more later on and now I make even more. You have to sacrifice some sweat to gain skills.
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There are "jobs," and then there are jobs which provide the income necessary for a person to pay their basic expenses and eat. Sure, I was able to take low-paying jobs-- that's why I you know, didn't acknowledge them (I didn't realize we were friends?)-- but guess what, the low-paying jobs didn't want me. You seem to forget a lot of jobs have their standards too, hence the Catch-22.
I am getting tired of people insisting there are plentiful opportunities out there for everyone, when the fact is employers of all job levels continue to be selective. College-degree holders find themselves pushed out of selection because of their degree, regardless of the fact they're willing to work. Employers aren't interested in hiring someone who is going to keep looking and eventually leave.
Last month, I interviewed for a position "out of my role," and was turned down because the team was concerned I wouldn't be able to take "my role" hat off to fulfill their role. No amount of convincing could have swayed them, even though I made it clear I was looking for a job and a chance to grow.
There are clearly many low-paying jobs, who don't want a select group of people, and then there are less better-paying jobs who only want a select group of people. Don't sit there and tout about how people aren't willing to take some sweat. My gosh.
FTR, I've been through a layoff so I know what it's like. My current employer recently completed a merger and it's only because I happened to work at the right location that I did not experience a second layoff.