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Old 12-04-2015, 02:44 AM
 
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I agree with getting another attorney.

Stuff like that has happened here, and it was major news. I assume you pressed charges? What she did could bring serious jail time. If so, it will be public record. It's embezzlement.

You have a responsibility to notify the parents, especially after the butt-grabbing.

Anything else will look like a cover-up, which could ruin your program.

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The butt-grabbing is sort of common in some circles.

I've had a random guy at a barbeque one time just slap my butt and say "What's up?" as a greeting.

It took me way off guard, but I just ignored him and that was the end of it.

And that on it's own wouldn't break a law anyway, so I'm not sure what the point of telling the parents is?
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:45 AM
 
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In the opinion of the attorney, it can't be. Just to play devil's advocate, the butt grab could be her word against the kid's. You can't go around spreading rumors about people. The league could get sued. If enough people know, word will get around without the league saying anything.

I don't think the coach would have been fired for that though.

The stealing is pretty concrete though and can easily be told.

And you can't go spreading rumors about people? Isn't that what the news does all the time and they never get fired!
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:46 AM
 
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Good point, but if the butt grab wasn't reported, and this person wasn't convicted of anything, they can't go around saying that she did it. Same for the embezzlement. The league needs to be all in or all out. Report it all to the police or don't say anything.
That is total BS. If someone stole, they stole.

You act as if it isn't reported to police, it didn't happen.
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:47 AM
 
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The coach has all the players from her old team. No one knows of her misconduct other than the board. A decision was made to not press charges.

Maybe if the board had an alternate coach lined up, the parents would have stayed.

Did you expect their kids to sit out a year because your board couldn't get its act together?
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:49 AM
 
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I'm going to guess that there's no proof of her theft and that's why the lawyer said you have to keep quiet about it. You could be liable for defamation if your intent is to ruin her reputation or business.

What about sending a simple letter to the parents saying something like, "If you decide you're ever unhappy with the new team, we'd love to have you back."

That is not defamation, but it might get people talking.

If you lost your team, though, they must like her. Without hearing all sides, it's hard to know what really happened.

Yeah, like moms REALLY keep quiet about everything!

And if she did that stuff for 4 years, she probably is super guilty about it, so I really doubt she would press a defamation suit. She probably does not even know how to spell that word.

And no, that letter is a terrible idea. If they know nothing about the stealing, why would they leave their current team?

People would get that letter and say, "Wow, that league must be desperate." followed by 30 minutes of people ripping your organization and then moving on.
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:52 AM
 
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And you live with the decisions you make. Failing to prosecute is pretty common with youth, civic and religious groups. Grabbing the girl's butt was a crime and should have been reported to the authorities. You can ignore someone stealing your stuff all you want -- you have an obligation to report inappropriate physical contact.

The opposite is true.

There are connotations of butt-grabbing that are not sexual. There is so much room for interpretation there. That will not win in a case.

Stealing is pretty black/white. No one would argue that stealing is OK.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If she stole all that stuff were charges filed? Anything you can PROVE can be communicated publicly, doesn't seem to apply in this case, hence the advice from your lawyer.

As far as the butt grab and lesbian joke, personally I think it is more of a parent/kid mad they were cut, benched, etc. ..

If she is such a terrible coach/thief/sexual predator how did she manage to "steal" all the best players?
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The coach has all the players from her old team. No one knows of her misconduct other than the board. A decision was made to not press charges.

And that's where you screwed up. If she was stealing from the club charges should have been filed. End of discussion.


That happens fairly frequently here.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:03 AM
 
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If that's true about her grabbing a child's butt, you should report it to the police immediately. That's a sexual assault on a minor and is a serious crime. Honestly, I don't know how you could live with yourself with allowing a child sexual predator to get away from punishment.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Definitely think charges should be fired. If these kinds of allegations are true, community sentiment should fall in line.
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