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Old 01-31-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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With a criminal justice degree... or a dad who is a felon?
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Old 01-31-2016, 06:24 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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There was a thread on exactly this about a year ago. How to get CIA/FBI jobs. You could use the search function to find it.
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Old 01-31-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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My Son is in college and he was sent a letter to let him know they were interested in future college grads ( Computer Engineering) and the background check/process could take as long as 6 months to year...so they encouraged people to apply before they even graduated...so it sounds like they really do their homework as far as background checks go. (As you would expect).
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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I don't know about having a relative with a felony conviction, but I can tell you that if your neighbors think you are nuts the alphabet agencies (actively recruiting you) will drop you like a hot potato.

Long story short: Crazy neighbors. Wife moreso than husband. Husband is considered a genius in his field (genius hacker), or so the FBI agents who interviewed a few of us on the street alluded to. Which explained a few things...like his wife yelling out home network passwords when she'd drive by a neighbor she decided to have an issue with THAT particular day.

After he didn't get the position with the FBI....the crazy amped up - for a while. In hindsight we all came to the conclusion we should have lied through our teeth to get them out of the neighborhood and down to VA.
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:26 PM
 
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Having a parent who is a felon is not an automatic bar to employment.

The chances of getting hired with a CJ degree are pretty close to zero. Preferred fields are finance, accounting (especially CPAs), law, computers, foreign language, and experience in intelligence gathering and analysis.
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: nYC
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It never sounded that CIA or FBI had anything to offer better then industry and free market. I don't really envy people are in law enforcement.

The background checks they do are a matter of policy and they are felt. I mean you do feel and know when backgrounder check is being conducted. It go so far as having 2 FBI agents talk to your neighbors and friends.

I do not believe this is an accident. When I screen people to decide if I should conduct business with em, they are not aware of this. I do act with in boundaries of the law, where I go through public information about the persona and what past business associates say. I do have the ability to go beyond this point and get private information about people where one would need a consent. You just gave me an idea to standardize this process.

As far as I know CJ is a police degree.

I have noticed many times that police acts to be seen and felt, people feel they are doing something and feel safe. Among all the methods of collecting information methods that would get people worried are chosen.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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U can always work police 2-5 years then apply FBI. CJ is not a asset to FBI. They hire lawyers and CPAs
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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I applied to work a clerical job for the FBI. As soon as they found out I had a DUI, it was the kiss of death.
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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two very different jobs--one involves enforcing laws and the other supports the breaking of laws.

As indicated above, the best way to get on as a SA is to get a degree in comp sci, accounting, or even a law degree. I would also join the Reserves as an Officer too.

Many ways to get a job as an 1811---don't just look at the FBI which is hard to break into. Much easier to join the Army as a CID special agent and then lateral in.

CIA recruits out of select schools....unless you are a Seal or Deltla guy then you can join SAD. Quite a few Ivy League lawyers as OPS Officers and quite a few Phds working in the Analytical Division.

I worked with Federal LE and Intelligence Officers before.
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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They don't care if your dad is a felon -- as long as you aren't and that you don't have ties to terrorists.

Criminal justice degree, of course you can. What's more important is your experience. You can't even apply unless you have a bachelor's degree plus 2-3 years experience. There are some certifications (especially in IT) which may waive a year. I have not looked at the requirements in a while, so I'm not 100% sure.

That being said, they lay out all of the requirements for you.

Additionally, once you qualify to apply, you're still a ways away. Qualifying may allow you to sit for phase I testing, but you will not make it to phase II unless you are deemed "most competitive" compared to the other thousands of applicants. This is determined by the FBI headquarters after you are nominated by your local office.

I ended up cruising through to phase II, but only because I entered as an IT/cyber specialty. If you don't meet one of their critical need categories, you'll be put into the "general" pool, making it substantially harder to get through.

After passing phase II (most don't), you'll receive a conditional offer of employment. You'll need to pass a fitness test, take a polygraph and submit a huge stack of papers for top secret clearance. Your spouse will be interview (if applicable), you'll have a psych evaluation. If you pass all that, you'll have the privilege of training at Quantico where you're still far from guaranteed to pass.

If you can qualify for top secret compartmentalized clearance and meet all of the other qualifications above, you might have a glimmer of a chance -- highly dependent on the current competition of other applicants. The process generally takes 1.5-2 years to get to Quantico.

All for the glory of being sent to a high cost of living field office in a large city making a mere 70K. For some people, it's worth it. For me, it wasn't. Best of luck!
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