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Old 10-03-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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It seems that the OP could have taken more initiative to get the information needed if the HR department was unable or unwilling to compile it. The OP could have had the manager write the duties and evaluation and forward it to HR and the OP could have taken the benefits from the website and forwarded that to HR which would then only need to do the packaging and sending of the required information.
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Old 10-03-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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My manager REFUSED to write the letter and told me to go to HR. I couldn't write the letter because I don't have letterhead and I'm not official. Canada wanted a letter from my manager, honestly. She refused.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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Canada needed to know what I do for a living to assess whether or not I was eligible for the express entry portion of permanent residency. Since it was not provided in a letter with letterhead, I was refused.

Curious as to what level you submitted on your application? It doesn't seem that collections qualifies for any of these?


For immigration purposes, the main job groups are:
  • Skill Type 0 (zero): management jobs, such as:
    • restaurant managers
    • mine managers
    • shore captains (fishing)
  • Skill Level A: professional jobs that usually call for a degree from a university, such as:
    • doctors
    • dentists
    • architects
  • Skill Level B: technical jobs and skilled trades that usually call for a college diploma or training as an apprentice, such as:
    • chefs
    • plumbers
    • electricians
  • Skill Level C: intermediate jobs that usually call for high school and/or job-specific training, such as:
    • industrial butchers
    • long-haul truck drivers
    • food and beverage servers
  • Skill Level D: labour jobs that usually give on-the-job training, such as:
    • fruit pickers
    • cleaning staff
    • oil field workers
Find your NOC
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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Curious as to what level you submitted on your application? It doesn't seem that collections qualifies for any of these?


For immigration purposes, the main job groups are:
  • Skill Type 0 (zero): management jobs, such as:
    • restaurant managers
    • mine managers
    • shore captains (fishing)
  • Skill Level A: professional jobs that usually call for a degree from a university, such as:
    • doctors
    • dentists
    • architects
  • Skill Level B: technical jobs and skilled trades that usually call for a college diploma or training as an apprentice, such as:
    • chefs
    • plumbers
    • electricians
  • Skill Level C: intermediate jobs that usually call for high school and/or job-specific training, such as:
    • industrial butchers
    • long-haul truck drivers
    • food and beverage servers
  • Skill Level D: labour jobs that usually give on-the-job training, such as:
    • fruit pickers
    • cleaning staff
    • oil field workers
Find your NOC
B. Revenue Recovery was listed under B. I also have a college degree.

It is what it is. I don't want to go into that field, I want to write. My degree is in writing and my past experience included technical writing. They saw that, but needed my current job to asses. I want to be a technical writer and i would like to get a certification or master's in it.

Now, when I look for work in the US, when a company calls my employer, what is done? Aren't they only allowed to verify what I did/do? This makes me nervous about how they'll do a reference check.
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Old 10-03-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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B. Revenue Recovery was listed under B. I also have a college degree.

It is what it is. I don't want to go into that field, I want to write. My degree is in writing and my past experience included technical writing. They saw that, but needed my current job to asses. I want to be a technical writer and i would like to get a certification or master's in it.

Now, when I look for work in the US, when a company calls my employer, what is done? Aren't they only allowed to verify what I did/do? This makes me nervous about how they'll do a reference check.


National Occupational Classification


So, I don't think you were denied based on your lack of HR letter. You were denied based on the fact that your current role does not match the skilled requirement that Canada lists as Revenue Officer or Revenue Recovery Officer. The role is much more than calling people trying to collect money.

Even if your employer had sent a letter, Canada wants your skills and knowledge to be related to government tax collection. It doesn't seem you have that.

https://www.abhinav.com/canada-immig...-officers.aspx
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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I guess not. Well, I am looking for a new job and one that transfers. Maybe I'll work my way to transferring - it might not be Canada, but wherever a job takes me. I want a new job that better suits my skills.
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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I have a college degree in English. I needed a job at the time and this was all I could find. I'm looking for another job in the US.

I want to start a career, I have writing, analytical skills. For the past two years I have been working in revenue recovery collecting out of network payments from insurance companies on behalf of emergency rooms. I've brought in over $1 million for the company. It's not the field I want to go into, though. I'd love to work for universities. I do want to go back to school, but I need to pay off some debts first and a better FT job.
So the answer to my question is no, you’re not a professional in any way, shape or form. You work entry level, why would you apply under professional?!?
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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So the answer to my question is no, you’re not a professional in any way, shape or form. You work entry level, why would you apply under professional?!?
Because Canada only required one year of work and a BA. I thought I was a professional.

It's water under the bridge now and I'm moving on, so I can work towards becoming a professional.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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If Canada wants individuals 18-34 and with a college degree, wouldn't an entry-level job that calls for a university degree be a professional job? Every job that lists my degree is professional in Canada's eyes. I just can't seem to get those jobs in the US.

I'm still at this awful job. I'm not quite sure what I do and my title is not universal (revenue recovery specialist). I am not having luck finding a new job.
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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It seems like the larger the company the harder it is to get those kind of verification. Now it it seems like it's a real nightmare for a lot of employees.
I know, I work in the more technical side of the HR department and we get calls all the time. It is literally against policy for us to do verification over the phone and letters of any sort.
The company started outsourcing to a third party, so we just have to refer the employees or whoever to that number.

So yes, we get people who honestly can't believe why we can't just "write something". It sounds so simple and easy - but we can't. Or we'd be fired.
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