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At my last job, there was a lady who was fired and the reason was that she "had a bad attitude." I sat across from her and she was always very friendly towards me and would help me when I asked. I thought she was very professional.
Well, there was one manager who was very difficult to work with and had a habit of talking to subordinates like they were children. For some reason, she especially had it out for the lady I'm talking about. The manager was just very nasty to her, and I'm sure the lady was defense as anyone would be who is attacked on a regular basis.
One day, we had a regular meeting, and the nasty manager told us that "we all need to treat each other with respect." The lady who was fired responded with "you need to treat us with respect as well." Of course, the manager then sent it up the flagpole and the lady was fired for "having a bad attitude."
If you ever brought her name up, she was a "bad employee" and "couldn't get along with anybody." Another manager even accused her of stealing people's lunches from the refrigerator, which I kind of doubt. I never had anything but positive interactions with her, but then again I'm a nice guy and I know people tend to react well when you are nice to them.
I just don't think she really had a bad attitude. She was fired for standing up for herself.
Yes.. yesterday I attended a training on this. We were told not to blame others for our issues... I said to the trainer.. but what if it isn't our fault? She said, take the blame anyway.. and then turned around and lectured us on being sure to be open and honest with our supervisors.
At my last job, there was a lady who was fired and the reason was that she "had a bad attitude." I sat across from her and she was always very friendly towards me and would help me when I asked. I thought she was very professional.
Well, there was one manager who was very difficult to work with and had a habit of talking to subordinates like they were children. For some reason, she especially had it out for the lady I'm talking about. The manager was just very nasty to her, and I'm sure the lady was defense as anyone would be who is attacked on a regular basis.
One day, we had a regular meeting, and the nasty manager told us that "we all need to treat each other with respect." The lady who was fired responded with "you need to treat us with respect as well." Of course, the manager then sent it up the flagpole and the lady was fired for "having a bad attitude."
If you ever brought her name up, she was a "bad employee" and "couldn't get along with anybody." Another manager even accused her of stealing people's lunches from the refrigerator, which I kind of doubt. I never had anything but positive interactions with her, but then again I'm a nice guy and I know people tend to react well when you are nice to them.
I just don't think she really had a bad attitude. She was fired for standing up for herself.
Preach! There are people who need to feel in control and gain that by bullying. Someone who stands up to them is a threat and therefore must be eliminated.
I would never in a million years think to lie about someone, but apparently spreading the rumor that many people in the workplace have complained about __________ and her bad attitude is one of the best ways to get rid of them.
At my last job, there was a lady who was fired and the reason was that she "had a bad attitude." I sat across from her and she was always very friendly towards me and would help me when I asked. I thought she was very professional.
Well, there was one manager who was very difficult to work with and had a habit of talking to subordinates like they were children. For some reason, she especially had it out for the lady I'm talking about. The manager was just very nasty to her, and I'm sure the lady was defense as anyone would be who is attacked on a regular basis.
One day, we had a regular meeting, and the nasty manager told us that "we all need to treat each other with respect." The lady who was fired responded with "you need to treat us with respect as well." Of course, the manager then sent it up the flagpole and the lady was fired for "having a bad attitude."
If you ever brought her name up, she was a "bad employee" and "couldn't get along with anybody." Another manager even accused her of stealing people's lunches from the refrigerator, which I kind of doubt. I never had anything but positive interactions with her, but then again I'm a nice guy and I know people tend to react well when you are nice to them.
I just don't think she really had a bad attitude. She was fired for standing up for herself.
Yes, Management who cannot handle the slightest argument, challenge, demand or disagreement and label anyone who does not agree with them as having a bad attitude, sounds like a typical corporate workplace - and those who seen as having a bad attitude are fired, layed off and marginalised.
Yes, Management who cannot handle the slightest argument, challenge, demand or disagreement and label anyone who does not agree with them as having a bad attitude, sounds like a typical corporate workplace - and those who seen as having a bad attitude are fired, layed off and marginalised.
Agree. I have experienced different flavors of this type of management in my career. You have to suck it up and shut up when working for these companies. I did for 35 years.
I had some horrible bosses. Dumb bosses. Bosses who couldn't be trusted as far as you could throw a car.
But I've also had some great bosses. Bosses who never asked the employees to do anything they wouldn't be willing to do themselves. Bosses who stood up for their employees. Bosses who mentored.
Yet, even with great bosses, I've also seen colleagues who just brought their rotten attitudes with them to work. People who were territorial. People who didn't want to put one additional erg of energy into the job. People who sprinted out the door every day at 5:00:01, regardless of whether or not the work was finished. People who gossipped. People with awful people skills. People who were unwilling to learn new things and bristled at every change in the routine. Or, to your point, people who undercut their bosses in a meeting.
So there are people whose horrible attitudes have nothing to do with the job or their boss. It has everything to do with the fact that they are lazy, self-centered, and all-around horror shows to work with. And I bet there will be one of those who read this post and think, "Nope. Couldn't be talking about me."
There are more effective ways to be honest and stand up for yourself than to backtalk a superior in front of a group. Whether she was in the right or not, she handled it poorly; just about begged to be fired.
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