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Old 05-28-2018, 07:31 AM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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Who does the temp actually work for?

Answer: The temp agency. The vacation would have been scheduled with his/her employer.

Again it is none of the OP's business, but every office has one of those nosy people that always goes around sticking their nose where it does not belong, looking to get someone in trouble.
+1; its likely they have accrued several pto days from their previous assignments. from their emyloyers perspective, they probably havent missed a day all year.
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Old 05-29-2018, 01:02 AM
 
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The temp can only get his own self in trouble by missing more days
You still do not get it. The temp has the right to schedule vacation time with his employer. The temp agency is his employer, not your company. The temp agency would have let your employer know in advance that the temp was out on vacation on the already approved schedule.

He/She is not going to be in trouble for missing those scheduled vacation days. If the employer had not approved those days off for the temp before being assigned to do work for a temporary period of time for the company, someone else would have been assigned to work for your company.

You have no knowledge of all the reasons that this temp was assigned to work for your company. You are only seeing what you want to see, but there may be more than that involved. The temp, may even be involved in observing you and your co-workers to find why they are not producing more work than they are and you or someone else may even be fired due to the temp finding the weak link in the office you are in.

I know this happens, as I once was the one brought in to find why two stores in the chain were not profitable. I was leaving one store, and going to work for another company which was the top middle price range store in the area in a month. A friend hired me to evaluate those two stores. In the first week, I found the one was in the wrong small town, and due to the huge turnover of population every year, the banks would not finance their sales for anyone who had not lived in the area for 5 years or longer. About 80% of their sales, were rejected by a top quality bank. No way to improve sales, so I closed the store, put a notice in the front window that the store was permanently closed and moved to the other store. The delivery people came down and cleaned out the merchandise, etc., in the store. I moved to the other store, and found the exact location made it nearly impossible for people to find it. It was located at the exact location that the street started down in a deep dip under a railroad track, and people looking for the store never even saw it as they were looking down into this deep dip. Closed the store. The other branches were doing great, with only two stores in trouble. But I closed two that were losing money ones in 2 weeks. I was paid for two weeks, and given another months pay (quite high) as a bonus. Two weeks later, I went to the other store, where I was making in today's dollars $150,000 plus a year in commission and bonuses.

OP, the trouble is you have no idea how businesses work, and even the true reason the temp is working there. You have no knowledge of how the agreement for the temp to work there, was arranged with a pre-planned vacation. Keep trying to find out, and you may be the one that ends up in trouble. No matter what you think, it is none of your business what is going on, and is confidential information, between your employer and the temp agency who is the employer of the temp.

I know of a couple of instances, where a temp was brought into an office, to check up on the employees. This one office, was not producing the work for the company that the other offices were doing. He installed a Key Logger onto their computer system, so that he could know every stroke that the person typed into their computer on every computer in the office. After a 10 day period working in the office, he went back to his office (which was in the corporate office) and monitored the work done by that office. The company announced in the office, he was on vacation. His position was a security officer, over the computer system to keep it secure, and make sure no on was in communication with a competitor, or was not authorized to use the computer for certain functions, or assessing things they should not be allowed to do in violation of SOX laws. He found who was working, and who was fooling around doing personal stuff including on chat lines and face book, on company time instead of doing work for the company. Some were found to be spending as much as 50% of company time doing his/her own thing, not the work they were assigned to do.

When he came back to the office he was monitoring, he had each violator go to an office, where he gave them their termination papers and final checks.
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Old 05-29-2018, 01:14 AM
 
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It's not my business but since his cubicle is next to mine I couldn't help but notice he was missing the last two days. Then a coworker mentioned something about him letting management know he is going on vacation that was planned ahead of time and that's when I was like really???.
Give us an update if he's back.
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Old 05-29-2018, 05:30 AM
 
Location: ......SC
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OP- maybe you should go work for a temp agency for a while. Then what we are all trying to tell you just MIGHT make more sense. Through the years, I have worked for several. Sometimes 2 consecutively. Temping is just another avenue of employment. Some big corporations only use Temp agencies! I have worked for Farmers Insurance-MIRO office, as well as Caterpillar. They both ONLY used temps, then farmed their new hires from the temps.
BMW also only uses Temp Agencies. For many companies, THAT is the only way they do hires.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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Give us an update if he's back.
He was actually only out 2 days and returned that Monday. I was thinking he was out for a week on the beach while in the process of being trained. If he misses anymore days between now and 7/31 he will probably be told not to return.
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Old 05-29-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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OP---You still do not get it. You are thinking of permanent employees with a new hire.

It is not the same for temps. He is employed by the temp agency, and they are the ones he answers to as far as his being gone. Your company would have been told, what days he was to be off, and what days he was to work.

Your problem is you are assuming things that you now know are not the truth. He was gone for 2 days, but you have been saying he was off at the beach. And 7/31 has nothing to do when it comes to temps. The problem is, you have no knowledge of the arrangements for the temp to work there, and have no ideas of when he was scheduled to be off as that would have been arranged by his employer (the temp agency) and your employer.

You are sticking your neck into things that are none of your business. And you still do not know what all the duties of the temp, and why he is working there. He may be there, to watch and see which of the permanent employees is not pulling their weight, which he will report to your employer. He may be there, to see if there is a better way of doing things in that department and will set up changes in the way things are done in your department.

There are so many reasons an employer will bring in a temp, and just getting the work done, is not always the main reason they are there. As I said earlier in this tread, I was once brought in to evaluate why 2 stores were not showing a profit, and in a week I had closed one, and the second one the next week as they not possible to make them profitable because of being in the wrong locations. The other employees, thought I was just a new salesman. They never dreamed the real reason I was there, to find the solution for poor sales records, and my solution was to close the stores which they did.

I then went into the corporate world, and was as high as division sales manager over western half of the country. We had temps come in for different reasons, and they were not just to get a certain amount of work done.

A lot of temps, are used today, to find out problems in a department, to check on certain employees, to evaluate how a department operates, and find better ways of doing things. They are specialists at being trouble shooters.

And as I have been brought in for purposes the other employees were not told about, and was not there under the same work days, etc., that the permanent employees are.

You have no idea of why the temp is there, why they can take days off right after going to work, etc. You are sticking your neck into companies need to know business, and if you are not careful you get it chopped off (fired) over this if you are not careful. You now know the temp has special privileges (2 days off right after starting the job), so you should be very careful because the temp may be hired to evaluate you and see if you are worth keeping employed there.
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring
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There isn't an issue. Why are you jealous?
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:13 PM
 
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He was actually only out 2 days and returned that Monday. I was thinking he was out for a week on the beach while in the process of being trained. If he misses anymore days between now and 7/31 he will probably be told not to return.
By whom and for what reason?
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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By whom and for what reason?
Probation is 6 months and then the temp becomes permanent after 9 months. So normally when a temp is late constantly or misses a lot of days during that first 6 months, they are told not to come back.
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Old 05-30-2018, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Germany
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This temp who started with the company in April is now on vacation because it was already planned? I heard of pushing a start date back due to a vacation but a temp working for a month and then going on vacation? So the person who is doing his training has to wait for him to return from vacation so she can continue his training?

Does this sound weird to anyone else?
A temp doing training sounds strange to me. I would have thought a temp would be employed to fill vacancy for a short time, and would therefore either need to already know the basics, or would require only minimal training.
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