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Old 12-02-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that some 90% of the humanity was still basically in a pre-industrial economy at mid-century, and over the past few years that 90% is catching up as the aging countries of early industrialization - US, Europe, and Japan - face that tsunami of competition for the first time.

The originators of the agricultural economy are by now long forgotten, and it may be the case that in a few hundred years, maybe even by the end of this century, the originators of the industrial economy will be forgotten, or at the least just one of the pack (possibly by the end of this decade).

In any case, yes, without getting into specifics, sorry, I know cases of US emigrants achieving success abroad.

Right now, for someone with a bit of capital, some good local contacts, and the willingness to risk, returns on investment are far higher in emerging countries.

On the other hand, if you are looking for a mere job as an employee, well then your outlook here or there is about the same as the outlook anywhere else.

Good Luck!
damn good post
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: IL
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I would imagine people fleeing the US due to being disgruntled here will temporarily find bliss in a move until they can read the newspaper in their new country to see that everywhere has problems. Foreign places are exciting and fun, but then real life sets in and life is life.

An even better option is to not become so emotional about issues you can't control (i.e. politics) and don't get so angry at people that have divergent opinions as you. Mellow, focus on what you can impact...and life is much happier.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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That's interesting in itself. I didn't think there were any countries that were favorable to Americans in term of immigration.

Anyone who is thinking of emigrating to Europe, probably wants a European-like lifestyle, so I don't see that being too much of an issue.

Language is an issue though. I can think of a handful of languages I'd love to learn, but German has never been one of them.

Germany does have some pretty cool looking cities though, so if my life were a bit different, and I were able to spend serious time in Germany, maybe I'd quickly think otherwise.
Yes, there are special rules for people from Australia, Israel, Japan, the US, Canada, New Zealand and Korea. For instance, when they plan to live in Germany for more than 3 months and work, people from these countries are allowed to enter the country before getting the long-term visa, people from all other countries (except Europeans of course) have to get the long-term visa first, i.e. before they enter the country.
I don't know if that is even EU law or just German law. So maybe it applies to all of the EU.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Yes, there are special rules for people from Australia, Israel, Japan, the US, Canada, New Zealand and Korea. For instance, when they plan to live in Germany for more than 3 months and work, people from these countries are allowed to enter the country before getting the long-term visa, people from all other countries (except Europeans of course) have to get the long-term visa first, i.e. before they enter the country.
I don't know if that is even EU law or just German law. So maybe it applies to all of the EU.
Kind of sounds like coming in on a basic tourist visa, and having your look around?
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:45 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Kind of sounds like coming in on a basic tourist visa, and having your look around?
For some countries yes, but people from the US and certain other countries don't need a tourist visa anyway, they can just go to Germany for 3 months per half year, if I remember the rules correctly.
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Yes, there are special rules for people from Australia, Israel, Japan, the US, Canada, New Zealand and Korea. For instance, when they plan to live in Germany for more than 3 months and work, people from these countries are allowed to enter the country before getting the long-term visa, people from all other countries (except Europeans of course) have to get the long-term visa first, i.e. before they enter the country.
I don't know if that is even EU law or just German law. So maybe it applies to all of the EU.
This is something like Serbia, which I still don't understand and haven't gotten an answer I am happy with. When I lived there in 2007, all one had to do when staying there for long periods of time was to make a "border run" and then come back for an other 3 months. But that was changed in 2010 and now to stay over 3 months, you need proof of money and health insurance and then can apply for a long term VISA (which is weird in itself, for who really wants to live there but me?? . ). And this is where it gets even weirder/harder. When I flew there in Sept. the airlines asked how long I was going to stay and I told them; but then asked why. She said that if it were for over 3 months, I would have to have a VISA from them or I could not get on the plane. Well, I had asked that very question of the Serbian Embassy in Chicago before I left as I am planning on staying longer nextg year, and he told me that when I get there, I would then get the long-term VISA. So, I definitely need to get an answer before I do go there, or I'll have to lie to get on that plane! BUT my question is, has anyone else been asked that question too, by the airlines? AND is it really their business???
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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This is something like Serbia, which I still don't understand and haven't gotten an answer I am happy with. When I lived there in 2007, all one had to do when staying there for long periods of time was to make a "border run" and then come back for an other 3 months. But that was changed in 2010 and now to stay over 3 months, you need proof of money and health insurance and then can apply for a long term VISA (which is weird in itself, for who really wants to live there but me?? . ). And this is where it gets even weirder/harder. When I flew there in Sept. the airlines asked how long I was going to stay and I told them; but then asked why. She said that if it were for over 3 months, I would have to have a VISA from them or I could not get on the plane. Well, I had asked that very question of the Serbian Embassy in Chicago before I left as I am planning on staying longer nextg year, and he told me that when I get there, I would then get the long-term VISA. So, I definitely need to get an answer before I do go there, or I'll have to lie to get on that plane! BUT my question is, has anyone else been asked that question too, by the airlines? AND is it really their business???
Yes, I have heard of that practice, leaving the country in order to reset the timer so to speak. But most countries have put an end to that practice...
Indeed, make sure you got that visa stuff all worked out before you do anything stupid
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA
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I'm an American professor and twice in my career have used sabbaticals, which is one year off from teaching every 7 years. The year is used ostensibly to study, but is generally used merely to relax somewhere else. I have tremendously negative feelings about American government and am the antithesis of a jingo. I've always preferred the European way of life and approach to many issues.

Both years of my sabbatical I chose to spend in Germany. I speak fluent German and my husband was born and raised there. We rented a house right outside Munich and spent 10 months there each time. The cost of living was outrageous compared to southern California, where I live. Gas was $12 a gallon, food was three times what it cost in California and the culture was sometimes grating. But I still loved it and really didn't want to return back to the U.S.

The moment I came back to America, I had to deal with the politics, the religious nuts which permeate American culture and many other things I didn't have to deal with in Germany.
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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The lack of fundies and corporate-dominated politics would be a powerful incentive for me to live in Germany, Ulysses .... also the picturesque cities ..... and the Munich beer and German wursts. Are those last two much better there, as rumored?
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Not easy to emigrate to Japan, but work visas are easy to come by.

If you have a college degree, you can get a work visa to teach english. Once you get the visa, you can change jobs to almost anything you want. You could work in starbucks, or a bar, or wherever you like. The catch is you need to know Japanese to do the non-teaching jobs.
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