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Old 09-03-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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For instance, for me as a Spaniard I would say most European languages share nearly the same pitch of voice when someone is making fun of people by imitating then in such ways that expose their flaws.

So, as I'm improving my British English everyday by watching the Youtube channel from a British teacher, just I've seen the next video yesterday, so I detected her satire speech easily, as for instance from 2:07 to 3:12:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lZuQKK6JN4

I also speak French as my second foreign language, so I'm able to detect French satire speech too.

Surprisingly enough, I understand a few basic Dutch words just at a very basic level, but still I am able to find satire in their speech, like Zimra Geurst did from 4:10 to 4:18 in this video. Although I know they were talking about **** and porno, I don't know what she said within her satire speech nor the entire conversation. Well, her body language helps too, but if I wouldn't be able to see her, I'm still able to recognise her satire speech only by listening:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gXhpAS4eXU


So, I would say satire speech are nearly the same in every European language, even in non-Indo-European ones such as Finnish and Hungarian. I reckon easily that every speaker of any European language can easily detect satire speech in every European language even if you don't understand a single word of that language.


Finally, I'm guessing if satire speech can be detected easily in other exotic languages.
Can the average native speaker from any European language detect satire speech from, say, either Chinese, Japanese, Arabic or Swahily language?
What do you think?
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Most of the time I find it difficult to see the difference between satire (joking) and mocking (insulting), especially when i never spoke to the person.
Love satire, hate mocking.
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Old 09-03-2016, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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Old 09-03-2016, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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Most of the time I find it difficult to see the difference between satire (joking) and mocking (insulting), especially when i never spoke to the person.
Love satire, hate mocking.
Look, for me sometimes it's difficult also to put apart joking from insulting, but by the frames of these two examples I posted earlier, I'm still able to recognise how the pitch of voice means someone speaking way different than normal speech, even I don't understand the language, as I don't understand Dutch, but English.
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Old 09-03-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Most of the time I find it difficult to see the difference between satire (joking) and mocking (insulting), especially when i never spoke to the person.
Love satire, hate mocking.
It is the recipient as much as the speaker that defines the difference between satire and mockery.

A sensitive person always feels mocked even when they are merely being satirized
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Old 09-03-2016, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Most of the time I find it difficult to see the difference between satire (joking) and mocking (insulting), especially when i never spoke to the person.
Love satire, hate mocking.
It's true that the woman in that video was mocking rather than satirizing.

To answer the OP, yes, I speak a Neo-Aramaic and when we mock others we do have that "tone". The woman in the video reminded me of my aunt when she makes fun of people's voices.
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