UK higher violent crime rate than Brazil, USA, Russia..??? (dangerous, murder rate)
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I was reading an article from The UK Sun and it claimed that in 2002 the UK's violent crime rate was 11,326 per 100,000.
It went on and on about how dangerous the UK is compared to these countries and tried correlating the supposedly low violent crime rates in Brazil, the US, and Russia with the harder prison systems in the US, Russia, and Brazil.
According to data UK media cited, Brazil's violent crime rate was 927 per 100,000 compared to the UK's suspiciously high 11,326 per 100,000 as well as the US's 4,118 per 100,000 and Russia's 1,754 per 100,000. So the UK has a violent crime rate 11 times Brazil???
What's up with this because there's no way in hell this is true. All of a sudden London's more dangerous than Rio? Yeah right. Is this the crap they're feeding people in the UK? And people think OUR media sources are fear-mongering liars? Yeah, let's stick a punk from Brixton in one of the Rio favelas and we'll see if he survives the night...
Can you post a source? I know that in some European countries a comma in a number equals a point in English numbers. For example, 11,326 would be eleven point 326 in German, not eleven thousand.
Anyway 11,326 seems to be too high. That would be more than one in ten people...
Can you post a source? I know that in some European countries a comma in a number equals a point in English numbers. For example, 11,326 would be eleven point 326 in German, not eleven thousand.
Anyway 11,326 seems to be too high. That would mean more than one in ten people...
Old article about prisons from 2007 but it's still relevant.
The Sun doesn't count as a proper newspaper with real, trustworthy information. Though actually if we're talking about figures from 2002, as it happened 2002 was the year when I got attacked in a case of mistaken identity. This is still Britain, though: when the guy quite quickly realised I wasn't whoever he thought I was he had the good manners to apologise first before running off
• Around half of all violent crimes result in no injury whatsoever (according to both police figures and BCS).
• 71% of mugging (robbery and snatch theft) incidents result in no injury.
• The number of violent incidents has fallen by 36% since 1995.
• Certain "yobbish" behaviours (eg minor scuffles) have been reclassified as crime, with the effect of doubling recorded violent crime.
• A violent crime with many victims is no longer recorded as a single crime. An incident with 5 victims is now recorded as 5 crimes.
• A higher proportion of violent crime is recorded – eg the proportion of common assaults (without injury) recorded rose from around 50% to 68% between 2002 and 2003.
In terms of serious violent crime the UK has one of the lowest figures in the world, in terms of minor and nuisance crime, we often record it in our violent crime figures leading to a massive inflation of the figures and an over recording of crime. The new Government is currently looking at taking certain low level crimes off the list of crimes deemed as violent, as it is making a mockery of our figures. Although the fact the figures are so skewed because of the over recording of minor crime doesn't get in the way of idiotic journalists trying to write a daft sensationalist story.
Do the figures for homocides include lesbicides ? What about heterocides ? What about people who swing both ways ? Was this a Freudian slip ? I think we all need to know.
Do the figures for homocides include lesbicides ? What about heterocides ? What about people who swing both ways ? Was this a Freudian slip ? I think we all need to know.
LOL -No just bad typing and lack of time - corrected now though
We usually use the term murder in the UK rather than homicide.
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