God done it
Posted 08-06-2020 at 11:06 PM by phetaroi
When I was a teacher, I had certain rules for myself. Rules about how I did my job. How I treated students. How I treated colleagues. How I treated parents. When I became a vice principal, I had to develop a somewhat different set of rules for myself as my job changed. When I became a principal, I had to develop a somewhat different set of rules for myself as my job changed. And even within each of those time periods, the rules I set for myself would evolve. Learn by doing. Then, there were the rules I had to work under set by "authorities". At various times the principal, the superintendents, the Board Of Education, the state ed department, the legal system, etc. These bosses, to a large extent, decided my fate. If I seriously screwed up, I'd have to answer to "the authorities".
But here in this thread, we're talking about god. A being who supposedly is all powerful. Supposedly all knowing. He has no bosses. He is the ultimate. No one makes the rules for him...except him. And, there he is "god in three persons, born in trinity".
So who made the rules and directed the action that Jesus had to be crucified? God done it. Who made the rules and directed the action that Jesus had to suffer on the cross? God done it. Not Pontius Pilate. Not Rome. Not the Jews. God did it to Jesus...to himself. I would, literally, call that both sadism and masochism.
But it goes beyond that. Throughout the bible this supposely all powerful and all knowing god is -- at best -- a drama queen. He never seems to do anything the easy way. He has to create a worldwide flood. He has to turn people into pillars of salt. His own favored people -- the Jews -- have to suffer under the Egyptians for 400 years. God could have changed that anytime he wanted to, and without the plagues of Egypt, without killing babies, without parting the sea. But no, he had to be a drama queen and make people -- both those he loved and those he hated (?...even though he created them, too) -- suffer. Yet, as the all-powerful being he could have simply snapped his fingers and made anything happen.
And then there's you jimmyj, madenew, BF, and others. When that all-powerful being decides your time is up, that all-loving being won't just have you die instantly and without suffereing. No, he'll probably give you a massive heart attack or stroke, cancer, AIDS, Alzhiemers, Parkinsons, etc. Gotta be dramatic. Gotta make you suffer. Because perfect love is full of suffering and drama.
If that whole scenario isn't the biggest crock, I don't know what is.
So what did Jesus sacrafice? Nothing. God, as Jesus, did it to himself. How exactly does an all knowing, all perfect, and all pwerful being forsake himself?
But here in this thread, we're talking about god. A being who supposedly is all powerful. Supposedly all knowing. He has no bosses. He is the ultimate. No one makes the rules for him...except him. And, there he is "god in three persons, born in trinity".
So who made the rules and directed the action that Jesus had to be crucified? God done it. Who made the rules and directed the action that Jesus had to suffer on the cross? God done it. Not Pontius Pilate. Not Rome. Not the Jews. God did it to Jesus...to himself. I would, literally, call that both sadism and masochism.
But it goes beyond that. Throughout the bible this supposely all powerful and all knowing god is -- at best -- a drama queen. He never seems to do anything the easy way. He has to create a worldwide flood. He has to turn people into pillars of salt. His own favored people -- the Jews -- have to suffer under the Egyptians for 400 years. God could have changed that anytime he wanted to, and without the plagues of Egypt, without killing babies, without parting the sea. But no, he had to be a drama queen and make people -- both those he loved and those he hated (?...even though he created them, too) -- suffer. Yet, as the all-powerful being he could have simply snapped his fingers and made anything happen.
And then there's you jimmyj, madenew, BF, and others. When that all-powerful being decides your time is up, that all-loving being won't just have you die instantly and without suffereing. No, he'll probably give you a massive heart attack or stroke, cancer, AIDS, Alzhiemers, Parkinsons, etc. Gotta be dramatic. Gotta make you suffer. Because perfect love is full of suffering and drama.
If that whole scenario isn't the biggest crock, I don't know what is.
So what did Jesus sacrafice? Nothing. God, as Jesus, did it to himself. How exactly does an all knowing, all perfect, and all pwerful being forsake himself?
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