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Old 07-21-2019, 09:43 AM
Clintone
 
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
Other countries don't give a flying...

They know their only way is to have cheap energy fast.....and that's not windmills and solar....that's coal and gas....that they would have to build anyway to back up wind and solar

...and global warming does not give a flying how many people there are....only how much CO2 emissions are put in the air

The USA has lowered it's emissions more than any other country....where it was 30 years ago
...and China, India, and the rest of the "developing" world has increased their emissions so much..increased more than 6 times the USA......there's absolutely nothing we can do about it any more

World CO2 emissions > https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....rbonemissi.jpg
Per person, the U.S. produces more C02 than citizens of China or India. Furthermore, financial problems will harm people in China and India more than people in the U.S. due to their lower average incomes.

Therefore, your claim that "other countries don't give a flying" is not shown by your data. What is shown is that countries are still developing.

Of course they're using cheaper energy now. We can't say they don't care until they're producing as much C02 as the U.S. and not trying to alter that.


China, for example, is the world "leader" in total emissions (6018m metric tonnes of carbon dioxide) since it overtook the US (5903) in 2007. But all that really tells you is that China is a fast-developing country with a lot of people.
A more useful measurement is carbon emissions per capita (person). Under that measurement, the average American is responsible for 19.8 tonnes per person, and the average Chinese citizen clocks in at 4.6 tonnes.
Examining CO2 per capita around the world also shows us the gulf between the developed world's responsibility for climate change and that of the developing world. While Australia is on 20.6 tonnes per person (partly because of its reliance on CO2-intensive coal) and the UK is half that at 9.7 (explained in part by relatively CO2-light gas power stations), India is on a mere 1.2. Poorer African nations such as Kenya are on an order magnitude less again – the average Kenyan has a footprint of just 0.3 tonnes (a figure that's likely to drop even lower with the country's surge in wind power).

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-person-capita

So, if you ask me, what we need to do is research some cheap-as-possible clean energy technologies real quick so that those nations can adopt them before they build up a strong power infrastructure in coal and oil and use that to adopt standards of living along the lines of the U.S. Then what we do still will matter...we just won't be making much more of an impact on things than everybody else like we are now. Now's the time we get to be the world's example. We'll lose that power in the future.

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