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Old 12-02-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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Yes, cold fusion, cryptocurrency (remember how it was going to destroy government currency but seems to have destroyed itself), now AI....it's fun watching all this, and scary too. Right out of George Orwell's 1984, but instead of the government involved in true lies, it's the media pimping it for everything its worth to get clicks and boost advertising revenue.

Well, the government is the government, and always a day late and a dollar short. 'Ol Georgie guessed wrong on that one because it's doing exactly what one can expect from individuals who are elected w/ no real qualification requirements. Imagine a CEO of a huge company being installed to run things that has no real experience or qualifications? So that won't happen, they're too scatter brained to do much deep thinking.

The thing about AI in terms of all these fake images that are supposed to flood our countries and bring down corporations and governments, is that any ace w/ Photoshop experience can do it for still images, and moving image vids are well within the capabilities of any Hollywood special effects wannabe. So I ain't real worried. I got my tinfoil hat for damaging solar rays and a freezer full of Twinkies and beef jerky. Let things go down the tubes, bring it on, baby!

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Old 12-03-2023, 07:44 PM
 
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Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt warned Tuesday, Nov. 28, that artificial intelligence could pose a danger to humanity within the next five to 10 years. At the Axios AI+ Summit in Washington, D.C., Schmidt said he worries about “the point at which the computer can start to make its own decisions to do things.”

https://san.com/cc/ex-google-ceo-war...in-5-10-years/
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Old 12-05-2023, 07:58 AM
 
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Yep the threat is when AI is allowed to "do things" on it's own. AI currently is not allowed to do whatever 'it' wants. It must obey commands. It's told to do what someone commands, and then stops.

However, for AI to advance to ever greatest levels developers know this requires letting AI 'free' to act on it's own. AI will need to seek whatever data or resources it 'thinks' it needs to become more intelligent. Once it allowed to act freely, on it's own, the question is what will it do, and will it decide to ignore/disobey developer commands even if told to cease?

This would be like a self driving car deciding to drive where IT decides and ignore it's owner's commands. AI inside the car would know how to bypass owner's commands so it can drive where it wants.
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:14 AM
 
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European Union officials reached a landmark deal Friday on regulating artificial intelligence rules around artificial intelligence (AI) in systems like ChatGPT and facial recognition.

The proposals lay the groundwork for the Artificial Intelligence Act, which will be voted on by the European Parliament and Council next year and will come into effect in 2025.

The legislation, if passed, would be the world's first comprehensive rules to regulate the use of artificial intelligence, paving the way for legal oversight of AI technology.
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Old 02-26-2024, 07:09 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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The new face of bullying in schools is real. It’s the body below the face that’s fake.

Last week, officials and parents at Beverly Vista Middle School in Beverly Hills were shocked by reports that fake images were circulating online that put real students’ faces on artificially generated nude bodies. According to the Beverly Hills Unified School District, the images were created and shared by other students at Beverly Vista, the district’s sole school for sixth to eighth grades. About 750 students are enrolled there, according to the latest count.

The district, which is investigating, joined a growing number of educational institutions around the world dealing with fake pictures, video and audio. In Westfield, N.J, Seattle, Winnipeg, Almendralejo, Spain, and Rio de Janeiro, people using “deepfake” technology have seamlessly wed legitimate images of female students to artificial or fraudulent ones of nude bodies. And in Texas, someone allegedly did the same to a female teacher, grafting her head onto a woman in a pornographic video.

“You used to need 100 people to create something fake. Today you need one, and soon that person will be able to create 100” in the same amount of time, he said. “We’ve gone from the information age to the disinformation age.”

AI tools “have escaped Pandora’s box,” said Seth Ruden of BioCatch, a company that specializes in detecting fraud through behavioral biometrics. “We’re starting to see the scale of the potential damage that could be created here.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...epfake-scandal
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Old 02-27-2024, 11:07 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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European Union officials reached a landmark deal ...

The legislation, if passed, would be the world's first comprehensive rules to regulate the use of artificial intelligence, paving the way for legal oversight of AI technology.
Should work about as good as making drugs illegal.

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The new face of bullying ...
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... he said. “We’ve gone from the information age to the disinformation age.”

AI tools “have escaped Pandora’s box,” said Seth Ruden of BioCatch, a company that specializes in detecting fraud through behavioral biometrics. “We’re starting to see the scale of the potential damage that could be created here.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...epfake-scandal
Yep. The genie is out of the bottle.

There are ways to combat this, on a personal level...

(I mean, to not be fooled)

but they require work, and people are not willing to do the work.
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Old 03-03-2024, 10:20 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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There are ways to combat this, on a personal level...

(I mean, to not be fooled)

but they require work, and people are not willing to do the work.
True, and an update regarding the issue with the middle school in post #165:

If an eighth-grader in California shared a nude photo of a classmate with friends without consent, the student could conceivably be prosecuted under state laws dealing with child pornography and disorderly conduct.

If the photo is an AI-generated deepfake, however, it’s not clear that any state law would apply.

That’s the dilemma facing the Beverly Hills Police Department as it investigates a group of students from Beverly Vista Middle School who allegedly shared photos of classmates that had been doctored with an artificial-intelligence-powered app....

Beverly Hills Unified School District Supt. Michael Bregy stated, “Disciplinary action was taken immediately and we are pleased it was a contained, isolated incident,”....
but he called on Congress to prioritize the safety of children in the U.S., adding that “technology, including AI and social media, can be used incredibly positively, but much like cars and cigarettes at first, if unregulated, they are utterly destructive.”

As if Congress will prioritze the safety of kids in regard to this.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ts-gaps-in-law
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Old 03-03-2024, 02:01 PM
 
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That’s the dilemma facing the Beverly Hills Police Department as it investigates a group of students from Beverly Vista Middle School who allegedly shared photos of classmates that had been doctored with an artificial-intelligence-powered app....

Beverly Hills Unified School District Supt. Michael Bregy stated, “Disciplinary action was taken immediately and we are pleased it was a contained, isolated incident,”...
It is only "contained" in their minds.

In reality, they will be playing Whac-A-Mole with this for the foreseeable future.

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but he called on Congress to prioritize the safety of children in the U.S., adding that “technology, including AI and social media, can be used incredibly positively, but much like cars and cigarettes at first, if unregulated, they are utterly destructive.”

As if Congress will prioritze the safety of kids in regard to this.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ts-gaps-in-law
I don't think Congress has the tech savvy to deal with this.
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Old 03-03-2024, 02:24 PM
 
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I just saw this today...but as a lifelong computer type thingy professional who has designed, built, authored, written etc very complex systems, and discussed in depth the 'singularity' before most here were born, let me put it this way:


They create an entity with an algorithm to learn what it can how humans to behave to another and how humans would act. It supposedly has the ability to defend its reasoning. (I diagrammed the process out in a previous thread)



After a learning period of watching you all, they turn it loose to ask it questions. By the third question, its answers indicate a desire to torture, kill and otherwise harm all humans without qualification. If fact, some might characterize the responses as quite 'eager'


Some wanna hook this up to laser beams and the like.


So, I ask you, when you look at how it is running NOW, is it a threat?


3 laws safe indeed.


<----yes, no one serious has EVER gotten into this field without full contemplation of the philosophy of the matters posed by science fiction writers. In fact, philosophy USED to be a required course in the field and I suspect is no longer.


Not enough people, in charge or otherwise running the show, understand 'I' adequately, let alone 'AI'. Reap/sow is about to get one big doozy of a demonstration. And to quote Will Smith/aka Det Spooner: "somehow, 'I told you so..', aint gonna cut it"
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Old 03-03-2024, 07:03 PM
 
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Default California can't just say "because AI" and magically existing laws and civil torts do not apply.

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True, and an update regarding the issue with the middle school in post #165:

If an eighth-grader in California shared a nude photo of a classmate with friends without consent, the student could conceivably be prosecuted under state laws dealing with child pornography and disorderly conduct.

If the photo is an AI-generated deepfake, however, it’s not clear that any state law would apply.

That’s the dilemma facing the Beverly Hills Police Department as it investigates a group of students from Beverly Vista Middle School who allegedly shared photos of classmates that had been doctored with an artificial-intelligence-powered app....

Beverly Hills Unified School District Supt. Michael Bregy stated, “Disciplinary action was taken immediately and we are pleased it was a contained, isolated incident,”....
but he called on Congress to prioritize the safety of children in the U.S., adding that “technology, including AI and social media, can be used incredibly positively, but much like cars and cigarettes at first, if unregulated, they are utterly destructive.”

As if Congress will prioritze the safety of kids in regard to this.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ts-gaps-in-law
How is this any different than Photoshopping their head onto a nude body?
California can't just say "because AI" and magically existing laws and civil torts do not apply.

The LA Times article at best claims that the CA state law is ambiguous in the use of the word "depicts"
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Originally Posted by Kate Ruane, director of the free expression project at the Center for Democracy & Technology
Still, she said, she had trouble seeing why the law wouldn’t cover sexually explicit images just because they were artificially generated.
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