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Old 09-10-2010, 12:25 AM
 
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So people live in the mountains without roads or houses? Wow, Oregon must be a magical place. This is beyond silly. Think whatever you want about whatever you want. Your self-righteousness doesn't impress me, and neither does your attempt to take over this thread just because someone disagreed with you.
People live in the mountains with roads and houses in the Cascades of Oregon...they just aren't infested with them; as I previously stated, the land use laws in place in that state have seen to that.

But when it comes down to it I would rather see mountain land being utilized for those who love it and want to live there rather than being relegated as a playground for those who live elsewhere. I've seen way too much of that go on in Alaska---weekend warriors going out to "play" in the "wilderness" and leaving their filth behind them. Yeah, I'd be more than willing to trade those who think that their four wheelers comprise some sort of entitlement ticket for a few more houses to benefit those who truly love that way of life.


It takes care of itself, though; the economy and the specifics of the land can only sustain a very small population. Most of the housing apart from that that exists in a few small mountain towns isn't even visible to the average recreational user.

People also live in rural Alaska with roads and houses, if you can imagine that.

Incidentally, one of the drawbacks to living in many parts of rural Alaska is the weekend warriors who come around dragging their four wheelers and snow machines

Really, I hardly see where you even actually disagreed with me. I stated that I liked living in the mountains as opposed to being an occasional visitor (and most of the mountains in Alaska don't even allow for that), and you started blaring about recreational activities.

Quite a difference there, sorry it's such stretch for you and that my commentary here has caused you to go into such a defensive mode.



There are some places in the state where people have "access" to higher elevations, but for the most part that simply isn't the case. A lot of people come to these forums thinking that perhaps they will move to Alaska and live an idyllic life on the side of a mountain; they need to hear the truth concerning the reality of that, and that the definition of mountains in the lower 48 might just be in conflict with the reality here.

When I lived in the upper Su there were mountains all around me...but I was never deluded enough to think that I access them with a four wheeler.

We've actually had people post here who have thought that summitting and ascending Mt. McKinley would be a pleasant summer afternoon activity while the wife and the kiddies waited in the car.

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Old 09-10-2010, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Bernalillo, NM
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They were quite possibly the same ones, seems the timing is right. And yes, it was just like a bowl above me. It's something I will never forget, just awesome.
Remembering that sight, and thinking now about how other folks hundreds or even thousands of miles away might have seen the same thing, really reinforces the power, beauty and majesty of mother nature. Thanks for helping me relive and expand on the memory.
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Old 09-10-2010, 06:49 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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So people live in the mountains without roads or houses? Wow, Oregon must be a magical place. This is beyond silly. Think whatever you want about whatever you want. Your self-righteousness doesn't impress me, and neither does your attempt to take over this thread just because someone disagreed with you.
Not quite. You see, even though people live in the mountains in the lower 48, that doesn't mean it's wall to wall suburbs. Like OR, VT has a lot of land either set aside (government land), or not open to development. There's good and bad about such regulations (the bad being they make land more costly and difficult to build on, the good being outside of a few cities, we have little development).

No suburbs when I came across some beavers up in our mountains (hills by AK standards admittedly) earlier this summer:

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