03-04-2016, 04:25 PM
Location: AK
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Hey everyone-
My husband and I are relocating to Haines this summer and are considering buying property and putting up a cheap cabin kit if we can't find decent rental housing (especially hard with pets).
I've heard good things about Friesen's custom cabins and they look affordable. Not sure what getting one to Haines would cost.
But I'm wondering, what's the final cost when you factor in the wiring, plumbing, cabinetry, appliances, and heating? Anything else I'm not considering?
It's also not clear whether any type of foundation is included.
Anyone have experience with this?
Looking to go cheap as possible---- it would only be temporary- after a year we'll decide whether to build ourselves a real home on the property or to sell.
Any ideas besides cabin kits welcome! I'm sure my husband would love to put together a temp Conex home for us, but I'm not too keen on that plan!!
03-05-2016, 12:01 AM
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No, but if you find out, let me know. I need to have a cabin built.
You'll probably love Haines and want to stay forever, so keep in mind that Alaska residents get 10,000 feet of board timber each per year, so if you and/or your husband have construction skills, that might come in handy. My neighbors do it...I don't really know the details -- it's through the Forest Service and is called Free Use Timber. Tells a little about it here:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tongas...TELPRDB5404453
I'm pretty sure my neighbors pay a small local mill to cut and mill it for them. Never asked about cost, but it must be cheaper than just buying the lumber because they keep doing it.
03-05-2016, 12:25 AM
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Wow.... had no idea- we'll definitely check into that!
03-05-2016, 01:44 AM
Location: Interior Alaska
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I think I'd rather live in a wall tent than a container :-o
03-05-2016, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
puff5655
Hey everyone-
My husband and I are relocating to Haines this summer and are considering buying property and putting up a cheap cabin kit if we can't find decent rental housing (especially hard with pets).
I've heard good things about Friesen's custom cabins and they look affordable. Not sure what getting one to Haines would cost.
But I'm wondering, what's the final cost when you factor in the wiring, plumbing, cabinetry, appliances, and heating? Anything else I'm not considering?
It's also not clear whether any type of foundation is included.
Anyone have experience with this?
Looking to go cheap as possible---- it would only be temporary- after a year we'll decide whether to build ourselves a real home on the property or to sell.
Any ideas besides cabin kits welcome! I'm sure my husband would love to put together a temp Conex home for us, but I'm not too keen on that plan!!
You did see where they are T-111 right? Stop by your big box home improvement store and go inspect a piece of T-111 and see if you want your house made out of it.
03-05-2016, 09:03 AM
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I think it'd be better to either rent or build a nice cabin.
Check out this company, not far away in Hoonah.
Alaska Wood Products
03-05-2016, 10:06 AM
Location: Back and Beyond
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A lot of the cheaper land is out of town a bit. Also some of the land has CC&R's which call for a permanent foundation (no cabins on skids) and minimum size requirements and such, so be sure the parcel you choose can accommodate all your needs. Just something to think about.
I'd say you could get a rough cabin shell built for approx $10k or so, depending on size and features. Alaskaslist.com has a building/shed subsection that sometimes has decent cabins.
Alaska's List : Buildings & Sheds : 16' x 20' 6" D Log Cabin Kit this seems like a pretty good deal.
A pro of this plan is you can save money by not renting. A con is you'll inevitably find a parcel you like better the more time you spend there.
If I was trying to build a cabin by the end of the summer, I'd get started on buying the land right now. I'd also pick up a wall tent to live in while I'm building.
Anyways, good luck to you.
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03-05-2016, 11:30 AM
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Well, the hope is that we'll find something to rent- right now there is not a single option for someone with pets. I put up some housing wanted ads already.
03-05-2016, 07:53 PM
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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riceme
I think I'd rather live in a wall tent than a container :-o
I've lived in both and liked the connex better. Especially in bear country. Insulate the inside, put in a small wood stove and it's not too bad, for a temporary deal. Plus after you build then you already have a secure dry storage building.
03-05-2016, 09:10 PM
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I like stiffnecked idea with the conexes too. I've slept in a few myself. And one was a couple of them built together for larger space.
treehugger has some DIY cabin plans that go over how to build them on sono tubes or foundation. I don't what the land in Haines is like so you will have to see which is a better way to build.
Might check out some lumber mills as some will cut your wood for free if you give them a percentage of your lumber.
I'm sort of looking into having a cabin built too.
How to build a 3 bedroom shipping container home youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQkAQ8JMRmA
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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