11-06-2020, 07:04 PM
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Hi! I am planning on moving to Juneau Alaska in the spring / summer of 2021. I have trying to do my research on best ways to physically get there. Ranging from just flying there and shipping all of my items, driving to Washington and ferry from there, or make the 49+ hour drive to Skagway for the ferry into Juneau.
some things to mention:
1. I have a 2 year old golden retriever and am trying to make this as stress free for her; curious others experiences with traveling this far with many modes of transportation
2. I have a 2014 jeep wrangler, not sure if I want to put the 49+ hr stress on my car. ( I have thought about shipping my car to WA, then putting it on the ferry, and then renting a car from Denver to make the drive)
3. Is it too risky to make the drive through the Canadian Rockies in May/June/August time frame?
Curious what the best tips and tricks are for making this move!
thanks in advance
11-06-2020, 07:23 PM
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I haven't found a way to fly with a dog that doesn't fit under the seat, except to put them in the cargo hold (which I won't do). If there's another way I'd be very interested in that.
The ferry from Washington, IIRC, requires the dog to stay in your car, and there are 4 (?) daily 15 minute intervals you can go down to walk them, over a 2 day trip. I wouldn't do that, either.
If you want to drive, get
The Milepost .
Juneau is beautiful, I'm sure you'll love it!
11-07-2020, 01:02 PM
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Hi! I am planning on moving to Juneau Alaska in the spring / summer of 2021. I have trying to do my research on best ways to physically get there. Ranging from just flying there and shipping all of my items, driving to Washington and ferry from there, or make the 49+ hour drive to Skagway for the ferry into Juneau.
some things to mention:
1. I have a 2 year old golden retriever and am trying to make this as stress free for her; curious others experiences with traveling this far with many modes of transportation
2. I have a 2014 jeep wrangler, not sure if I want to put the 49+ hr stress on my car. ( I have thought about shipping my car to WA, then putting it on the ferry, and then renting a car from Denver to make the drive)
3. Is it too risky to make the drive through the Canadian Rockies in May/June/August time frame?
Curious what the best tips and tricks are for making this move!
thanks in advance
No matter which method you choose there will be a downside. I've made the same Denver-to-SE AK move you are facing with a dog and a bird, but had to do it in January. Didn't care to drive through more snowy mountains at that time of year. I chose to drive to Bellingham and take the ferry to Juneau, then on to the tiny bush town that was my final destination. The pets made it just fine.
Why wouldn't your Jeep handle 49+ hours of driving? Maybe that is a bigger question to answer. You don't want to bring a troublesome car of any sort to Juneau. There will be fewer options there to deal with continuing problems. Sure, Juneau has mechanics but everything you need to replace on it will cost you more and you'll wait for parts. Another thing to think through is living with a soft top vehicle in Juneau's climate. No small consideration. Have a mechanic go over your truck thoroughly and take care of any known mechanical problems ahead of time, carry supplies you might need on the road, and don't overload it pulling a heavy trailer.
Driving through the CA Rockies at that time of year should be fine. It may actually be easiest on your dog as you'll be with her all the time and can stop and get out whenever you want. Big question will be whether the US-CA border will be open. If you will be transporting any firearms you need to check into that in advance. Also what health certification you'll need for your dog.
I have traveled with pets (you think travelling with a DOG is a hassle, try birds or reptiles!!!) in and out of SE AK locations several times over the years. And, not just to a city...continuing on to small bush towns from there. Yes, your dog will need to fly in the cargo hold. Alaska Airlines doesn't have a bad reputation in terms of handling pets. I've flown with a dog several times without trouble, but I was prepared, my dog was comfortable spending time in her crate, and I followed the airline requirements to the letter. Be aware that they can impose a temporary embargo on pets due to weather on very short notice. You can check for their requirements on the airline website ahead of time.
The ferry is also a reasonable option (assuming the state hasn't cut its financial throat). I have also traveled on the AMHS ferry with pets several times including the longer routes of 4-5 days and I know quite a few other people who've done it too. Yes, dogs/cats need to remain in your car, but it is entirely doable if you think it out ahead of time. You'll find quite a few other passengers do the same. You need to make a comfortable space in the car where they can sleep, stretch, provide water, food, and blanket/bed that's familiar and smells like themselves and you. Space for this may be an issue with that size dog and small truck. Obviously if your dog suffers from separation anxiety this won't work too well. I'd suspect most pets just sleep away the hours. The crew understands how important letting your pet out of the car is. They make announcements for a car deck call on a schedule unless the sea conditions are so rough it would be hazardous. The majority of that route will be pretty smooth sailing. They provide water, paper towels, and trash cans for you to clean up after your pet. You'll have time for a short walk circling the car deck a couple of times to get the kinks out. If they are docked in port there may be time to take your dog for a walk off the boat too. One of my dogs was very "needy" and easily frightened by strange things and I was quite worried about her. She was totally fine and had the routine down by the end of the day. Be aware that that time of year is prime for ferry travel and space will fill up months in advance. Make your reservations early.
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11-07-2020, 07:36 PM
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If you decide to drive to Skagway, May into June you may have to spend a lot of time waiting for pilot cars to guide you through road repair zones along the Alcan highway. However, other than the delays, the road will be quite passable. If Canada full opens it's borders in 2021 there will be a lot of traffic on the highway. There will also be a lot of people looking for hotel rooms along the highway.
You will want to make ferry reservations way in advance. With all of the cuts in service car space could sell out fast.
11-07-2020, 10:29 PM
Location: Wasilla, AK
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then renting a car from Denver to make the drive
I do not think you'll find a car rental company willing to rent you a one-way rental from Denver to Juneau.
If you do drive, make sure and have a copy of
www.TheMilepost.com . In my opinion it's the best guide to the drive.
11-07-2020, 11:35 PM
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I moved to Anchorage from Washington State in ‘96. My parents offered me a birthday gift of a ferry ride from Prince Rupert BC which takes autos. Kind of cool, same route as most of the cruise ships. So was a great trip with not much actual driving. When my job ended a couple of years later I drove all the way back to Washington. That was a haul! And back then a lot of the highway was not great. I think it took me three days total. Yes get the “milepost” an excellent guide. Above post mentions website but I used their paper magazine version back then. Disclaimer: I did both these trips in September. Anything past that would not be recommended.
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11-08-2020, 10:49 AM
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If you're a communist like Colorado has become please don't move to Alaska.
What a d!ckhead thing to say. Do you even live here?
11-08-2020, 11:36 AM
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We drove from FL to AK with a 50lb dog, hauling a 12' trailer. We made the trip in March 2020. Drove to CO, stayed 2 weeks, then restarted the trip. We wanted to ship the dog but no airline would take him because he's a scary pit mix. We considered the ferry but it was closed this time of year and it was going to cost in the neighborhood of 8k from Washington to Anchorage.
The Milepost is very nice and did help for our trip but not significantly. Because of Covid, a significant number of places were closed - including gas stations. The Milepost told us where to fuel up where there are long stretches of no gas stations. Unfortunately, many of those were even closed. Before our trip, we got extra fuel, just in case. Didn't need them but made us feel better when heading out on some very lonely roads.
Road conditions were tolerable up to Edmonton (late March). Then they started getting rough and at some points real nail-biters. We were very happy we had real winter tires and 4wd. People are generally friendly (I'm told) and will help stranded motorists. I don't know if it's because of Covid, but no one stopped for us when we had trailer issues. Make sure your vehicle is SOLID. You don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere - especially when there is no cell reception.
We started calling Canada while in CO asking if they would let us in. All they could tell us is they make the decision at the border. We were the only vehicle at the Sawgrass crossing. No issues getting in or through. Seemed like Covid put them in a "pass 'em through quick" mode.
Hotels and gas stations raised prices significantly. A hotel that listed $80/night was nearly $200/night when we got there. We really didn't benefit from the lower gas prices on the east cost. We were paying over $4/gal at some points.
The trip is doable, just plan, check, adjust... and Good luck!
11-08-2020, 04:24 PM
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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If you're a communist like Colorado has become please don't move to Alaska.
Colorado is a communist? Really? That doesn't even make sense. What an incredibly rude, stupid post.
OP, I live in New Hampshire but find the Alaska forum to be really interesting with lots of helpful posters. Just ignore the idiots. (I guess that's good advice anywhere!) And good luck!
11-08-2020, 11:33 PM
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)